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Is it me?

nastynatesfish

A day which we will live in infamy
it seams lately that ALOT of new members are on with no posts, no feedback and selling high dollar items. Now. Nothing wrong with it per day but I'm iffy about buying a 1500 dollar item from someone that's had no interaction on a site. I've wondered as long as I've been on this fine forum, why there isn't a minimum post number to be able to sell? I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust someone, we were all new members with no feedback but I am Leary with all the stuff going on with people getting screwed out of item. Happened to me once with a handguard. I don't know. Just a rant I've been chewing back for a while
 
You make an excellent point. The forum provides us with some of the information that you refer to so I think if we pay attention to the forum information that we have available we can avoid doing business with the risky posts. If that is true then maybe a buyer beware post would be helpful to help draw attention the information available and make an informed decision. And maybe that is your point of this post. Your thoughts?
 
Having a minimum number of posts to be eligible to use the classifieds is done other places.

Think it's a good idea.
 
Most other forums I frequent have a minimum post requirement.. But new members looking only to sell just post that many BS posts and then list their stuff.
 
nastynatesfish said:
it seams lately that ALOT of new members are on with no posts, no feedback and selling high dollar items. Now. Nothing wrong with it per day but I'm iffy about buying a 1500 dollar item from someone that's had no interaction on a site. I've wondered as long as I've been on this fine forum, why there isn't a minimum post number to be able to sell? I'm not saying that you shouldn't trust someone, we were all new members with no feedback but I am Leary with all the stuff going on with people getting screwed out of item. Happened to me once with a handguard. I don't know. Just a rant I've been chewing back for a while

A very good point and suggestion. Over 99% of the members are 100% honest people to deal with on accurate shooter.

The bank just the other day told me not to trust "Cashiers Checks" anymore. They are being conterfieted big time these days. I was shocked. "Postal Money Orders" are safer because the Secret Service will definetly go after conterfiters.

I hate to say this as I know most people's feelings, but "Quicken Bill Pay" and "PayPal" are about the best most secured way to pay for purchased items. You can send an invoice to anyone, even if they don't have an account with either.

My Sister: Well her and I had a big time conversation on this subject. It ended with me saying . . . so you feel sending a check is safer than using one of the above services. Well let's see, when you send a check, it has your name, address, phone number, and other info you choose to put on the check, "PLUS" your checking account number and bank routing number is clearly on the bottom of the check. I just started getting into "Check Washing" when she decided she had enough.

So you tell me, which is safer?

At this very moment I have a Postal Money Order that is lost in the mail. It is a very safe way of paying someone until it gets lost or hijacked. It happens, the Postal System does not have 100% honest employees. Remember when several were arrested and charged with hijacking Social Security Checks. This is why they almost force you to take electronic deposits straight to your bank/savings account.

For the record, Ebay now owns PayPal and they have changed their policies. Just go on Ebay and see the amount of "Parts" that are available and payable with PayPal. Just a few years ago, it was not the case. Just making a point, they have changed and they are pretty secured, plus the service is free (basic service monthly fees). Quicken is great and you can do just about anything you can do on PayPal, but they charge $9.95 per month for the service which is cheap if your a merchant and using the service daily.

I personally am using all of these services and have for several years (Well over 1,000 transactions). It may pain some to hear this, but give me the "electronic" method any day!

PS: To my knowledge, PayPal still cannot be used to purchase "Actions" or "Complete rifles/or any Firearms". Credit Cards and Quicken can be unless someone states otherwise about Quicken.

Hopefully the above will help somebody from becoming a "Victim".

Dennis

PSS: I just remembered several years ago I sold a 4 wheeler on EBay Motors. I sold the 4 wheeler and it was stated that it would be a local FTF transaction. All went fine and I was paid in cash.

Two weeks later when I was shopping for a newer one, I saw "Another Add" with "MY" 4 wheeler pictures, in MY back yard". They were definitely my pictures and my 4 wheeler as it was customized and unmistakable. Someone in OK listed the add. I sent several emails to EBay Motors, but I never did get a response. I watched the add until it ended. I warned everyone who bided on the add.

So the OP definitely made a good point and observation.
 
I did it once on here for a 2200.00 item and it was a flipping nightmare. I was packed and ready to drive 14 hours to get my point across and had money set aside for bail. I know that isn't the grown up way but the guy was sending messages saying oh well and laughing at me on the phone telling me I wasn't going to do anything. Rifle showed up beat to hell and back and what did he care he only had 12 posts and ZERO seller feedback. I lost out a little bit but after some talking we came to a conclusion....Lesson learned

Very Respectfully
 
Buyer beware is fine and good except for the most part but the person that got screwed. I'm not trying to say everyone sucks! Lol. Just don't like how many 1500 $ plus items I see with people that just joined. Makes me wary
 
I have no problem dealing with someone having zero transactions, as long as he/she is a Site $$ Contributor. But, I will not purchase from, nor sell to someone, who isn't a Site $$ Contributor. My choice, and it has worked out well. Many members here use the Classifieds only. They aren't required to post anything under any of the headings, nor are any of us required to.
 
Lots of great points made here and a good thing to talk about. That being said, if someone is going to screw you, they are going to do it regardless of the number of posts made, the amount they contributed to this fine site, or any other reason under the sun. Unfortunately, it does happen as there are bad people out there planning out their next scam, the ones who are the best scammers end up in the White House.........

Do your homework, buyer be AWARE.
 
I also prefer paypal. I know a lot don't like it because there are anti gun. But to me A- what better way to stick it to them? Lol B- as a seller you have your money now. You can ship the next day so that means the buyer can get theirs sooner. If something happens you are covered so long as it's not a gift(which I mostly use).
 
nastynatesfish said:
Buyer beware is fine and good except for the most part but the person that got screwed. I'm not trying to say everyone sucks! Lol. Just don't like how many 1500 $ plus items I see with people that just joined. Makes me wary

Just for the record, I agree with the above. I "have & will" refuse to bid/buy from certain individuals. Selling is no problem once funds are secured. Some people I have dealt with, or they are well known members, some with references only, I take their personal checks with no questions. Again, 99% + members are 100% honest here. If someone with less than 10 post wants to purchase an item I have, and a friend of theirs who are well known respected members recommends them, I go with the transaction without question. PayPal will protect the buyers if the items are purchased through them. A hard policy to beat as far as the buyer is concerned.

And smooth, you are 100% correct.

I built and sold a "former" member a rifle which he paid for by Credit Card. Without ever contacting me, he filed a complaint with the credit card company demanding his money back! Stated he "NEVER" received the merchandise to the credit card company.

This situation quickly came to a halt when his 4473 came into the picture (buyers local FFL) with his signature on it! I guess he thought the BATF doesn't take these signed forms seriously. I know he received a call or visit from the BATF, I don't have a clue what they talked about, but the transaction stayed valid and I never heard from him, the CC company, or the BATF again.

A thief will be a thief. As a business person, you have to constantly watch your back 24/7.

Buyers: Verify your doing business with a reputable person. I do follow my own advice. I have been taken advantage of twice over the last 5 years, once on a stock, and again on a die set that was damaged internally. I don't remember the sites involved.

Accurate Shooter has a great thread giving advice on this subject created by the "Forum Boss" who is a great person and he gets involved in any questionable transactions. He is very proud of this site and takes fraudulent activities as an attack on him personally, and Accurate Shooter.

Take time and go over it.


http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?topic=3764348.0
 

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