Is HODGDON SUPERFORMANCE a double base propellent

[Ironworker]

Is HODGDON SUPERFORMANCE a double base propellent

 

[59FLH]

The MSDS states it contains both nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin, so I would say yes.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Ive never found a single cartridge that will shoot even good enough for full auto mag dumps with that powder. I bought 2 big jugs of it when it first came out and its useless. I bought it thinking it may be the powder they used in superformance factory ammo. Not even close

 

[Pyscodog]

I've had the same results as Dusty but a friend of mine uses it in a 6.5 CM and is having very good results. Mine just sets on the shelf now. Not enough left to really use and to much left to throw away. I may just give it to my friend.

 

[Laurie]

Yes, it's a double-based powder made by General Dynamics' St. Marks factory in Florida for Hodgdon using ball powder manufacturing technology. (All ball powders are automatically double-based whilst extruded grades can be either type.)

I tried it briefly in 284 180gn match loadings. MVs were good as were groups at least initially. However, I soon dropped it as match performance was very inconsistent, for whatever reason. (And like the little girl in the nursery rhyme - when she was bad, she was very, very, very bad!)

I suspect it's best treated as a high-performance hunting rifle propellant where Minute-of-Deer is good enough precision. Like @Pyscodog I've had a half tin sitting around for years without any obvious use.

 

[3Sigma]

There's a reason it sits on the shelf. No one I've talked to like it, so it is a hard pass even when it is the only thing on the shelf. Not worth the bullets and primers to even try.

 

[Straightshooter1]

I've had the same results as Dusty but a friend of mine uses it in a 6.5 CM and is having very good results. Mine just sets on the shelf now. Not enough left to really use and to much left to throw away. I may just give it to my friend.

Use it for fireforming???

 

[Murray Brook]

I purchased a couple of lb's a few years back thinking, like Dusty that it would be the same powder as in superformance ammo. Not even close and couldn't do much else with it in my 7/08. What is left goes into fireforming and fouler loads.

 

[CJ6]

Yes, it's a double-based powder made by General Dynamics' St. Marks factory in Florida for Hodgdon using ball powder manufacturing technology. (All ball powders are automatically double-based whilst extruded grades can be either type.)

I tried it briefly in 284 180gn match loadings. MVs were good as were groups at least initially. However, I soon dropped it as match performance was very inconsistent, for whatever reason. (And like the little girl in the nursery rhyme - when she was bad, she was very, very, very bad!)

I suspect it's best treated as a high-performance hunting rifle propellant where Minute-of-Deer is good enough precision. Like @Pyscodog I've had a half tin sitting around for years without any obvious use.

This could be the reason Mid-South still has 8# ers in stock after 24 hours.

 

[Adam in WI]

On a related note; is Hybrid 100V still in production? I wanted to give it a whack in 243 and 25-06...

 

[Dusty Stevens]

On a related note; is Hybrid 100V still in production? I wanted to give it a whack in 243 and 25-06...

Thats good stuff

 

[59FLH]

As I understand It is the same powder in SOME but NOT ALL Hornady Superformance factory ammo.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

As I understand It is the same powder in SOME but NOT ALL Hornady Superformance factory ammo.

A guy from hornady said it wasnt in any superformance ammo

 

[59FLH]

One of us was lied to

 

[59FLH]

Dusty, in what cartridges did you try it ?

I use it with 100gn BTSP in .243 Win with excellent results VL & accuracy

I originally bought it to use with 140 BTSP in 280 Rem but haven’t had as much luck with what little work I’ve done with that combo.

 

[Ray123]

Superformance, works for me, in 6.5 CM in AR10 auto and bolt, both fast and accurate. Preforming as well as RL26 and sometimes better with S/D and accuracy, with only slightly less velocity with 147 and 150 gr bullets, example: AR 10 24" barrel, 147 eldm Superformance 2782 fps, 11.0 S/D 5 shots .814" at 100 yds. 147 eldm, RL-26 2821 fps 12.4 S/D accuracy was not recorded as it was most likely over 1", while there are many groups less than an 1" recorded with Superformance or slower H4350 which had 20.7 S/D .858" group 2595 fps 147 eldm in the same AR10 6.5 CM barrel. Just my experience with Superformance, it worked so well I ordered 16 lbs.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Dusty, in what cartridges did you try it ?

I use it with 100gn BTSP in .243 Win with excellent results VL & accuracy

I originally bought it to use with 140 BTSP in 280 Rem but haven’t had as much luck with what little work I’ve done with that combo.

I tried it in a 6mm with 68, 80, and 90gr bullets (2 different guns one was an AI), a 250sav AI with 100gr, a 22/243 middlestead with 90gr, a 22-250ai with a few different bullets (to be fair it had a bad barrel and wouldnt shoot nothing i figured out). Thats about all i can remember. It had wild ES and never got to velocity i was accustomed to.

 

[Plumsask]

I tried it in a 6mm with 68, 80, and 90gr bullets (2 different guns one was an AI), a 250sav AI with 100gr, a 22/243 middlestead with 90gr, a 22-250ai with a few different bullets (to be fair it had a bad barrel and wouldnt shoot nothing i figured out). Thats about all i can remember. It had wild ES and never got to velocity i was accustomed to.

I just loaded some up to test in my 6mm Rem AI with a 90 grain bullet. What varies did you try with a 90 gr?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I just loaded some up to test in my 6mm Rem AI with a 90 grain bullet. What varies did you try with a 90 gr?

Have no idea. It was years ago and damn sure didnt write it down. The bullets were sierra

 

[bloc]

I love Superformance . . . so much so that I have roughly 5 lbs. For my .243 Win, I load 51.2 grains of it with the 65 Hornady. I must be getting 3700 fps (26 in barrel) and groups well under 1 MOA out to 300 yards.