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Is every Rem 700 bent?

depends on what going use the for . its a remington. and they shoot really well .square the hell out of them and there still a remington . square the action bolt and lug and they shoot ready good. sometimes
great. but unless you change the bolt out and do all the things you do to the action its most likely not
doing much . one of the best shooting 40x's I've seen didn't have anything done to it but a barrel and a stock .agg in the teen's for a season . I have friends get so called blue printed action and the gun smiths charge them 500 hundred dollar's to do a action . the 500 would have been better spent going towards remington
clone. and sell the remington too. much better option. that being said remington just being square and new
barrel good stock. will shoot in the 2' and 3' what do you need?
 
The RR and now the RAR actions are vastly improved. Chattanooga Shooting Supply has some actions in stock. Get a couple of new ones and check them out.
Walt - How do you find actions at their site? I've looked thru 'Firearms' and searched on 'actions' - not finding any.
 
Yes, they're all crooked. Some more than others but the RR's are typically the straighter ones, IME. I think your buddy Dave Kiff was involved in helping Remington get set up for making those actions. I also think they owed him two big boat loads of money and that's how he was awarded all those Remington guns, actions, parts etc in the bankruptcy settlement. Nevertheless, Dave had them on a better path in terms of quality but I guess he couldn't fix the book keeping for them.
 
And what would You charge a customer who insisted this would be the best course of action?

Asking for a friend ;)
The good news is I never plan to attempt to make a living at this…it’s something I do for fun. So it’s not a how much would you charge it is…I’m not doing it but I know someone and I can give you their phone number.

I have learned little one off projects can be MAJOR time sucks and what you should charge and what you can charge are rarely two roads that intersect at the same place. You never know what you are getting into with things of this nature. I just don’t do them, unless I’m bored and want to notch my bed post so to say.
 
Walt, have they improved the primary extraction of the RAR over the RR?
A lot of them are better. In defense of Remington, if they tighten it too much the action won't work. And, seldom is there an extraction problem with factory ammo loaded to saami pressures. It is a mass produced budget priced action that works great for the vast majority of its target market.
 
I had a few of the Rem single shots and that were very good. Still have not shot them as of yet, but will.
 
I approach things just a little bit differently, I suspect. In the first place, if the action is crooked so that the bor of the bridge is misaligned with the bore of the receiver ring (in other words, if the bore of the receiver is bent), I choose to ignore everything except the bridge and the ring. I turn a mandrel which about .695 in diameter, except for a bulge which will be located in the center of the receiver bridge. This bulge is turned to be semi-spherical and will have a diameter of about .702 (or whatever it takes to fit the bore snugly). At the receiver ring, at the top of the locking lug abutments, there is a similar bulge which fits tight at this location. So, with the mandrel in place, there is no contact except at these two points, and the mandrel follows a straight line between the middle of the receiver bridge and the rear of the receiver ring. Is this clear?
Now, I put my jig (a piece of heavy walled steel tubing with some brass tipped set screws in it) on the receiver. Before I put the jig on, I slide a sleeve, about 1/4 inch thick, over the receiver. This sleeve helps to prevent distortion of the receiver when I tighten up the set screws. I set the whole out fit between centers and dial in the fixture to where it is running true in all respects. Now, I remove mandrel and set the fixture up in the four jaw chuck and the steady rest so that it runs true. Then it is a simple matter to recut the threads and locking lug abutments. When I'm finished, I have a receiver which has threads which are aligned with a straight line from the middle of the receiver bridge to the rear of the receiver ring, and locking lug seats which are perpendicular to this same line. The bolt, of course, flops around just as it always has so that is the next step. I cut a pair of dovetails, .0625 deep, in the bolt body, at 6 and 12 oclock, located at the middle of the receiver bridge. I install the dovetail inserts and turn them to fit the bore with minimal clearance. At the front of the bolt I have the option of (a) doing nothing, (b) installing inserts right behind the locking lugs, or (c) locating the front of the bolt by the use of a teflon o-ring in the barrel counterbore.
I don't like the idea of cutting a dovetail right behind the lugs because the corner of the cut might produce a stress point and weaken the lug. For this reason, I will use plugs, soft soldered in place, instead. To be honest, I really kind of prefer the teflon o-ring system or the do nothing approach. If the bolt is aligned at the bridge and if the perfectly machined locking lugs are seated against their perfectly machined seats, the bolt must be aligned. I haven't gone into the machining which is done to the bolt (apart from the inserts) because it is so simple that no explanation is necessary. Any misalignment of the bore of the bridge with the bore of the ring is immaterial because I have established my own line, from which everything else is generated.
Anyway, I hope my description is understandable. I'm working on some You Tube videos but have learned that I am a much better gunsmith than I am a videographer, and I'm not that much of a gunsmith. I have a way to go to even achieve rank amateur production quality! WH
 
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Kind of hard to see in the photo, I'll explain. I've tuned up a couple of Rem 700's. The ones I've touched, never align properly with the rod/bushing. They're all out probably 20 thou.

This isn't something I figured I'd ever be doing because the effort typically isn't worth the cost. However, the CMP Vintage Sniper rules now allow for Vietnam era rifles, which includes Remington 700's - so I expect to see several, and am just curious if there is a run of 700's out there that typically ran truer than others.
The Action is bent? Did they use the barreled receiver as some kind of pry bar???????

Danny
 
I have a way to go to even achieve rank amateur production quality! WH
Those that can, do.
Those that can't, make YouTube videos about it.
(Absolutely no offense intended towards some of the excellent smiths with YouTube channels. Speaking tongue in cheek. )

I'm amazed at how fast things change.
Pretty soon trueing a Remington 700 will be like making damascus shotgun barrel, a lost art.
 
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The Action is bent? Did they use the barreled receiver as some kind of pry bar???????

Danny
Not so much bent as crooked and/or warped.
Machining something as complex as a rifle reciever without introducing some error is trickier and more expensive than it sounds. Than there is the warping that is fairly inevitable when heat treating steel.
Fabbing from prehardened steel sounds like an easy solution, until you cut into a chunk of prehard that has some internal stresses and it warps all over the place.
 
Bendy Mc700 found a good load. Vintage Sniper matches are gonna be heated this year!
What cartridge and scope did you choose? I only skimmed the rules and didn't see any cartridge limitations and a 3-9x with a 40 max objective must be used.
 

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