Not reallyI've loaded and reloaded over 1,000 rounds so far and have yet to use case lube. I know you are supposed to use it. But, other then the case getting stuck, are there any other benefits?
Thanks.
Because they can sell a small amount for a big profit. The trick is to convince you that you need it.WHY does RCBS, LEE, Hornady, Redding, Lyman, Dillon, ME and others make case lube?
I always lube. It may not be necessary but I think it make sense when you have two surfaces rubbing against it other with a lot of contact pressure. Should eliminate galling or brass transfer to the dies if you don't chamfer.I've loaded and reloaded over 1,000 rounds so far and have yet to use case lube. I know you are supposed to use it. But, other then the case getting stuck, are there any other benefits?
Thanks.
Agree, lubing the necks gives me a chance to examine the necks for the tiniest hint of cracking. I noticed several times that after length trimming I could see a fine black line on the shiny cut surface. It was the beginning of a crack that couldn't be seen on the O.D. surface. The cracks start on the end and travel inward.My experience using neck sizing dies is that once the case starts getting hard extraction (case web expanded) it is hard to bring that case back to proper dimensions using a FL die. A small base die may help but IME the case now has a memory and will resist sizing attempts. And annealing won't help because you do not want to anneal near the base. I got rid of my NS dies long ago. I don't download cartridges to near starting load pressures unless it's for someone who is recoil sensitive and then I FL size those anyway. I have come to the realization that brass wears out and other than annealing the necks, when FL sized cases start giving problems they are discarded.
Lube is cheap and easy -it's just not worth the chance of getting cases stuck in the die. Also, in the process of applying and/or removing the lube it gives one a good chance to inspect the cases.
Don't understand many guys don't think TiC bushing don't gall. TiC isn't self lubricating. Maybe it just resist Cu bonding to it.I've resized 1000's of 20 Vartarg's in a Redding neck die with a titanium nitride bushing with no lube.
Never stuck a case that I can recall.
Question is why are you neck sizing only? Eventually you will need to full length size, and neck sizing saves no time, so why not full size every time from the start.I've loaded and reloaded over 1,000 rounds so far and have yet to use case lube. I know you are supposed to use it. But, other then the case getting stuck, are there any other benefits?
Thanks.
Yes I eventually have to FL resize with lube.Question is why are you neck sizing only? Eventually you will need to full length size, and neck sizing saves no time, so why not full size every time from the start.
Wrong. Completely wrong. They sell it because it is essential to making repeatable full length sized brass. Whether you need their lube is up for debate, whether you need LUBE in general IS NOT up for debate if you are full length sizing brass. You only need to stick one piece of brass in a die to learn never to let it happen again.Because they can sell a small amount for a big profit. The trick is to convince you that you need it.
I use low vis petroleum oil $8.50 a quart. Didn't say lube wasn't necessary.Wrong. Completely wrong. They sell it because it is essential to making repeatable full length sized brass. Whether you need their lube is up for debate, whether you need LUBE in general IS NOT up for debate if you are full length sizing brass. You only need to stick one piece of brass in a die to learn never to let it happen again.
Not really