Ideas to Increase Participation

[ELR LVR]

That’s the last thing we need is cash payouts even though with shotmarkers that would eliminate cheating. But there would always be someone trying to cheat for $50 bucks. When I shot 3d archery tournaments I saw guys trying to cheat all to get a 50 cent medal.

I see, I dont know how one can cheat when or if we shoot for score
The hit is evident, physically marked by a spotter and last shot covered up,
or logged on shot marker
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if the prize was in the thousands then I could see people getting rather creative
but for even say $500, I dont see people getting pissy or whining or complaining if they simply didn't measure up
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and for anything under a $500 prize,
theres people GIVING stuff away worth more than $100 just for free to others
I dont see anyone at the club I shoot at cheating over $100-$200

 

[323]

I see, I dont know how one can cheat when or if we shoot for score
The hit is evident, physically marked by a spotter and last shot covered up,
or logged on shot marker
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if the prize was in the thoudands then I could see people getting rather creative
but for even say $500, I dont see people getting pissy or whining or complaining if they simply didn't measure up
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and for $100 prize, theres people GIVING stuff away worth more than that just for free to others

Oh you be surprised… you have folks that don’t even realize when a new shot registers. At one match a guy was crossfiring but his scorer was yelling 10 because the last shot was a 10. Finally someone from another firing point said I got a cross fire. Or they have a missed shot the scorer takes it upon himself to give a provisional shot etc. I seen a lot with electronics..

 

[jghoghunter]

Oh you be surprised…

I've seen people cheat in the factory class for a $30 1st place prize and a agg. at the end of the year.

 

[ELR LVR]

I've seen people cheat in the factory glass for a $30 1st place prize and a agg. at the end of the year.

Dang , Ok Roger that
no big deal, it would make it more interesting sometimes is all
Not suggesting every SINGLE match should be for a cash prize

but I mean, we have poker games for real money

Nascar wins money, they even try to cheat or get creative

yet they still carry on
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Maybe $50 is a good number to start off with, to let the cheaters expose themselves and get 'em out before allowing it to be more
If someone cheats kick em out, let there be repercussions for the act
Sometimes, I feel that
it'd be nice to have more of a reason to spend $6K and up for a rifle,
other than for how cool it looks
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Similar to how, not many would spend $100,000 on a fast engine just for how cool it looks in their Camaro
But for Top Fuel Drag Racing, then there is a reason
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It would be intereesting to see how much more inspired and innovative the Manufacturers would become with new components, barrels etc if there were high stakes involved.
Exotic barrel materials
ceramic lingings, internal barrel water cooling, magnetic resonance dampening etc etc
--- if there is no return on investment, nobody is going to invest in advancing quickly just so they can ensure a win.
Sorry if I relate this to car racing, it just seems like the best parallel to compare to when it comes to innovative advancements to win a race, and I guess that's more what I'd like to see, inspiration for accelerated advancements in the equipment, like how Ford Motor Co. invested so much in the development of the GT40.
Maybe I'm dreaming here but, look how freaking long it took just for Sierra to come out with 6mm bullets approaching .600 BC lol, we should have had that 20 yrs ago.
It's as though we're still in baby land when it comes to advanced engineering in the gun & scope Dept
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IE: Competition inspired the Mfgr's and Engineers , right?

 

[323]

Dang , Ok Roger that
no big deal, it would make it more interesting sometimes is all
Not suggesting every SINGLE match should be for a cash prize

but I mean, we have poker games for real money

Nascar wins money, they even try to cheat or get creative

yet they still carry on
---
Maybe $50 is a good number to start off with, to let the cheaters expose themselves and get 'em out before allowing it to be more
If someone cheats kick em out, let there be repercussions for the act
Sometimes, I feel that
it'd be nice to have more of a reason to spend $6K and up for a rifle,
other than for how cool it looks
---
Similar to how, not many would spend $100,000 on a fast engine just for how cool it looks in their Camaro
But for Top Fuel Drag Racing, then there is a reason
---
It would be intereesting to see how much more inspired and innovative the Manufacturers would become with new components, barrels etc if there were high stakes involved.
Exotic barrel materials
ceramic lingings, internal barrel water cooling, magnetic resonance dampening etc etc
--- if there is no return on investment, nobody is going to invest in advancing quickly just so they can ensure a win.
Sorry if I relate this to car racing, it just seems like the best parallel to compare to when it comes to innovative advancements to win a race, and I guess that's more what I'd like to see, inspiration for accelerated advancements in the equipment, like how Ford Motor Co. invested so much in the development of the GT40.
Maybe I'm dreaming here but, look how freaking long it took just for Sierra to come out with 6mm bullets approaching .600 BC lol, we should have had that 20 yrs ago.
It's as though we're still in baby land when it comes to advanced engineering in the gun & scope Dept
---
IE: Competition inspired the Mfgr's and Engineers , right?

If you had big payouts go to the 2026 swn results for FO look at the top 15 that’s who would always be in the top 15. At the matches with big payouts, I know I would probably stop shooting f class if it went to cash pay outs. Sure a new up and comer would crawl there way to the top. But most would just give up/quit. You need to look into f class point series. Thst pays out cash the top 32 shooters from each class are invited. Far as nascar reference not very many one car teams are competitive.