I want a 7mm something.

[Clavius-Walker]

7ppc all the way, no looking back.

 

[jbone405]

If a red clay hill, a huge rock, for POA, you "might" spot your own hits. Otherwise allocate funds for a target of 8'x8' minimum and a target cam for the extra long stuff. As in hot-rodding, if ya wanna go fast, it's gonna cost ya. Seymour

We have sand blowouts that make spotting hits easier. I have a target stand on skids, if I get a big plate to mount on it it would be pretty good. In the mean time I have a old freezer that is just asking for some fresh ventilation.

I could have had a nice used Sako for what I spent trying to get this schidt to shoot!!! And after all that I still just own a Ruger truck gun. Tell me one more time what you like about a Ruger?????

I have no illusions of a custom gun built off a american is going to be worth anything, but that story sounds like what I like doing, tinkering and doing my own work, just because. I do really like my Ruger Precision Rifle. I don't think you are going to find a chassis and an action for under $1k, let alone a complete rifle. Is it a APO or a Kydex chassis, no but it serves my purpose.

I just put a Shilen 6br barrel on a Rem 783. Looks like a good action for the $ to me.

7mag has always been one of my favorite calibers but I hated the belt and wanted just a little more capacity so I have considered building a form of 7mmLRM. 375 Ruger necked to 7mm. Now with the advent of the 28 nosler I may go with that instead.

I actually might build it off of a Marlin x7 which is sort of the predecessor of the 783 when Marlin was bought out. It takes savage small shanks and to me I liked the look of the bolt shroud. It's not like it actually matters in any way but cosmetic but I like it. I can use 783 bolt heads from PTG so I can just swap out to use a magnum. I rebuild the stock and added alot of weight. Eventually I may end up getting a savage target action, but for now it may serve its purpose.

I do think about the 7mm LRM or 28 Nosler, and man that seems like a lot of powder, but really a SAUM is gonna be only 15gr less?

 

[Tommie]

OP-
When you list particular specifications that the cartidge MUST possess, then mean it. If you don't insist upon a 30 degree shoulder then don't muddy the water by saying it's necessary. We're all here to help but don't waste peoples' time and then warn against "naysayers".

I'm done.

IGNORE... here I come!

 

[jbone405]

I need to pick a 7mm cambering, here is the rub, I want to do it cheap. I will shoot 162 or 180 Hornady bullets and will spend on a barrel. I want longer barrel life, plentiful brass, good die selection. I want a .300 neck and a 30* shoulder. Any of those things cheap has my attention.

Note my wording, the only thing I said I need or as you put it "MUST" have is a caliber in 7mm. I guess I learned a longtime ago the differences between wants and needs. Sorry, you took my coments out of context or somebody just put some icy hot in your jock. I just wish we could all get along.

When you list particular specifications that the cartidge MUST possess, then mean it. If you don't insist upon a 30 degree shoulder then don't muddy the water by saying it's necessary.

 

[mac86951]

7ppc all the way, no looking back.

This or a 7mm BR might be very interesting.

I have a 7SAUM and it loves the 162s. Not sure I'd be happy with a SAUM and much lighter than 150gr, it'll certainly do it though.

 

[jbone405]

This or a 7mm BR might be very interesting.

I have a 7SAUM and it loves the 162s. Not sure I'd be happy with a SAUM and much lighter than 150gr, it'll certainly do it though.

I'm looking at a 7 saum barrel somebody has for sale, but the freebore is .090. Is this going to be too short for a 180 gr class bullet? I am going to single load whatever I get so this seems a little short.

 

[slm9s]

My two cents...

Cheap and LONG range, plentiful brass. I built a 16lb 7 rem mag and love it. 180 hybrids out to 1600 so far. I guess I'm too ignorant to understand what the problem with the belt is, I've never seen it as a problem.
I also have a 280 and love it also, I've had it out to 1200 and it did well. 270 brass is plentiful!
Good luck.

 

[hoz53]

We have sand blowouts that make spotting hits easier. I have a target stand on skids, if I get a big plate to mount on it it would be pretty good. In the mean time I have a old freezer that is just asking for some fresh ventilation.



I have no illusions of a custom gun built off a american is going to be worth anything, but that story sounds like what I like doing, tinkering and doing my own work, just because. I do really like my Ruger Precision Rifle. I don't think you are going to find a chassis and an action for under $1k, let alone a complete rifle. Is it a APO or a Kydex chassis, no but it serves my purpose.



I actually might build it off of a Marlin x7 which is sort of the predecessor of the 783 when Marlin was bought out. It takes savage small shanks and to me I liked the look of the bolt shroud. It's not like it actually matters in any way but cosmetic but I like it. I can use 783 bolt heads from PTG so I can just swap out to use a magnum. I rebuild the stock and added alot of weight. Eventually I may end up getting a savage target action, but for now it may serve its purpose.

I do think about the 7mm LRM or 28 Nosler, and man that seems like a lot of powder, but really a SAUM is gonna be only 15gr less?

The barrel I put on the 783 is a savage small shank. I had to do a little machining but it fit fine. I looked at those PTG 783 bolt heads and there like 80.00 which is alot to me when you can buy a whole rifle for 300 new.

 

[jbone405]

The barrel I put on the 783 is a savage small shank. I had to do a little machining but it fit fine. I looked at those PTG 783 bolt heads and there like 80.00 which is alot to me when you can buy a whole rifle for 300 new.

Yeah that is no lie. But I already have a gun and 79.95 is better than 299.95. I don't know what the local gunsmith would charge to open up my current bolt but that might be an option too. If I were to buy a new gun it would probably be a savage target action or I saw a single shot remington action.

Nothing against a 7mm RM, just doesn't trip my trigger for this build. I think it would do pretty good for what I am looking for in reality. It's just personal preference.

 

[hoz53]

Yeah that is no lie. But I already have a gun and 79.95 is better than 299.95. I don't know what the local gunsmith would charge to open up my current bolt but that might be an option too. If I were to buy a new gun it would probably be a savage target action or I saw a single shot remington action.

Nothing against a 7mm RM, just doesn't trip my trigger for this build. I think it would do pretty good for what I am looking for in reality. It's just personal preference.

Well if you have the gun that makes sense. You could buy the rifle you want in 7rm and take the barrel off before you even shoot it then sell the barrel for a decent price to help out. Get the one you want to start with save the bolt head cost and sell the other one-- life is short

 

[savagedasher]

7mm08 is great gun . Barrel life included .
If you want more HP and you reload
7 mm 08 A I Larry

 

[ebb]

Why all the talk about a 7SAUM when a 7WSM is almost the same thing? I understand the 7SAUM has some theoretical advantages but 7WSM is already here in Winchester brass that you already have said you can live with. I pulled the trigger on a 7 years ago, and with the long range options you have it is perfect. I got a 7 RUM and when it was barrel time I just sent the smith 2 Bartlein blanks at the same time, now the barrel eater is tamed cause there is a brand new one sitting in the safe.

 

[jbone405]

7mm08 is great gun . Barrel life included .
If you want more HP and you reload
7 mm 08 A I Larry

You are not helping me make my decision any easier! I originally was going to do a 7mm-08. I have a bunch of 308 brass, it pushes 7mm bullets with high BC fast enough to get out there a long ways. BUT I already have a .243 and for the most part, I am going to shoot the .243 at the same ranges I will shoot the 7mm-08.

For example setting up to shoot prairie dogs, anything out to 150-200 I am going to take pot shots with the .22lr. Past that I am going to shoot the .243. What I need is something to shoot past the .243. Something that makes shooting past a mile easier, but I still want some degree of efficiency. The 7mm SAUM does 95% of what a 28 nosler will do? I don't know I am just making a wild guess.

Down the road a 7mm-08 on my current .243 sound pretty good to me. I actually looked at a 7mm creedmoor just to be different.

 

[jbone405]

Why all the talk about a 7SAUM when a 7WSM is almost the same thing? I understand the 7SAUM has some theoretical advantages but 7WSM is already here in Winchester brass that you already have said you can live with. I pulled the trigger on a 7 years ago, and with the long range options you have it is perfect. I got a 7 RUM and when it was barrel time I just sent the smith 2 Bartlein blanks at the same time, now the barrel eater is tamed cause there is a brand new one sitting in the safe.

All very true points. I guess for me it is the theoretical advantages. I have considered the WSM, but if I was going to go that big why not use the case that has the better geometry, shoulder angle and neck length, with better efficiency. If I can make SAUM brass from WSM brass with out reaming the necks it is a forgone conclusion I am going with the SAUM. But that isn't a guarantee.

How much powder does the RUM use and what kind of velocity are you getting?

 

[ebb]

I have loaded in to the ninety grain range with Retumbo. If you want to shoot 162 Amaxes you will have to back down on the powder, I've cronoed them at 3600 but they would seldom make it to the target. I use Berger 180 hybrids. I would go with the 7WSM for ease of brass prep, as I think the theoretical advantages are so minute as to be vapor. My friend has a 7 WSM in a stock Winchester coyote that makes 9-10 inch 3 shot groups at his 940yd range. I am about to believe what the other poster said about a Remington 783, with a good barrel they may well be a better Savage than a Savage.

 

[BOB LEE SWAGGER]

It seems more like you want a "7 something" page discussion.

 

[hoz53]

Why all the talk about a 7SAUM when a 7WSM is almost the same thing? I understand the 7SAUM has some theoretical advantages but 7WSM is already here in Winchester brass that you already have said you can live with. I pulled the trigger on a 7 years ago, and with the long range options you have it is perfect. I got a 7 RUM and when it was barrel time I just sent the smith 2 Bartlein blanks at the same time, now the barrel eater is tamed cause there is a brand new one sitting in the safe.

I'm thinking of building a 7saum right now. Big thing for me between that and a WSM is I believe the brass for saum is much more available. Norma is making 7 saum brass now. If the WSM brass becomes more available I may go with it down the road.

 

[seymour fish]

All very true points. I guess for me it is the theoretical advantages. I have considered the WSM, but if I was going to go that big why not use the case that has the better geometry, shoulder angle and neck length, with better efficiency. If I can make SAUM brass from WSM brass with out reaming the necks it is a forgone conclusion I am going with the SAUM. But that isn't a guarantee.

How much powder does the RUM use and what kind of velocity are you getting?

How about a 7 mm Blowupdoll ?

 

[jbone405]

I am about to believe what the other poster said about a Remington 783, with a good barrel they may well be a better Savage than a Savage.

I am leaning that way somewhat, but like I said I already have a Marlin x7 which shares a lot of parts, bolt heads specifically, so I could build whatever I wanted on that. It has proven pretty accurate with the factory .223 barrel and I always thought a good barrel would make it perfect.

If I buy a new gun it is going to be a Savage target action, maybe a 112 for around $900, sell the Laupa barrel for $250, have a target action with a laminate stock for $650.

How about a 7 mm Blowupdoll ?

Sounds interesting but it may be a little to big for me.

 

[6MMsteve]

7RSAUM. You've got 5000 acres, why the hell the worry over brass prices? Super accurate, super easy to tune. I'd rather have 1000-1500? gratifying rounds than 2000 what if/almost as good rounds. After reading Shootdots posts on 6.5x284 I had one built. I used the set up that he advised. Love it. AMAZING accuracy. Glad that I didn't "compromise" on either.

5000 acres hell yep, bulid a 50, sell some land buy some brass, bullets, primers and barrels. Build a tower and shoot the farm lol