I think I have found the ultimate carbon cleaner...

[Thud]

I check with my bore scope.

 

[ckaberna]

It worked too well so they banned it

If you notice, anything that “works” is eventually banned. In my opinion you may want to stock up on roundup if you use it.

 

[ckaberna]

Seems to be the old formulation and the new. Reading the reviews, the old formulation is golden. The new California compliant formulation is trash.

California ruins stuff for all of us. It like they need to legislate common sense in to the folks of that state. No offense to people that reside there, it’s just the mentality of the government “knows best”.

 

[brokeasajoke]

Anyone tried CRC turbo and valve cleaner. Smells kinda like the GM tec.

 

[garandman]

California ruins stuff for all of us. It like they need to legislate common sense in to the folks of that state. No offense to people that reside there, it’s just the mentality of the government “knows best”.

Bullying at gun point.

 

[snakepit]

Seems to be the old formulation and the new. Reading the reviews, the old formulation is golden. The new California compliant formulation is trash.

Berryman Chem-Dip Part#0996 is the Regular Formula

Berryman Chem-Dip Part #0996C is the California Compliant Formula

 

[Ccrider]

Berryman Chem-Dip Part#0996 is the Regular Formula

Berryman Chem-Dip Part #0996C is the California Compliant Formula

Thanks for adding this. I thought it was 0996 v 0996-ARM

 

[Dave Way]

Best carbon cleaner I have found. It would probably work with water. Yes, I even let it exit the muzzle and pull it back through which seems to be taboo on this site! Been using them on match barrels for at least 30 years and have never been able to detect damage to the crown. Remember, they are softer than your barrel steel. Carbon build up is a rarity in my barrels.



Dave.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

California ruins stuff for all of us. It like they need to legislate common sense in to the folks of that state. No offense to people that reside there, it’s just the mentality of the government “knows best”.

Yeah, like those dirty ones that took all the lead out of paint ! And DDT also.

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

Best carbon cleaner I have found. It would probably work with water. Yes, I even let it exit the muzzle and pull it back through which seems to be taboo on this site! Been using them on match barrels for at least 30 years and have never been able to detect damage to the crown. Remember, they are softer than your barrel steel. Carbon build up is a rarity in my barrels.

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Dave.

The brass is softer than the barrel but the carbon on the brass is way harder than the barrel.

 

[mauser284]

I believe I have stumbled on what could very well be the best carbon cutter I have ever tried.

Berryman's Chem Dip.. The auto parts and carburetor cleaner you see at Auto Zone in the gallon cans. Run a couple wet patches through the bore and let it sit 10 or 15 minutes. All the carbon just melts and wipes away. Harmless to steel too. Can't be certain it wouldn't damage a stock finish though.

Yep. I moved back to the USA in 1991 and started using it on cars then and around 1993 on rifles. Then when Walmart started carrying it in the Spray can at least 20 years ago maybe more I used it. In fact long before Gunscruber was a thing people where using B12 and Carb Cleaner! In fact that is also when rubber bands and ziplock bags over the scopes became my friend! I have never had my finish affected on an stock by it either and I have a mix of store bought epoxy finished wood stocks and hand rubbed oil finishes and plastic stocks. That said for most rifles it is over kill. With ingredients like Xylene, Toluene, MEK, Methyl Chloroform it is not for the paint of heart and gloves need to be worn!

I have not tried it on plastic framed handguns.

P.S. I think the newest Spray Can stuff is not remotely as strong as the older stuff and the stuff marketed as "fuel injection cleaner" is also not as strong. The old direction for crankcase use where much much stronger. The key was adding it to a cold running engine slowly.

 

[ckaberna]

Yeah, like those dirty ones that took all the lead out of paint ! And DDT also.

Well, if you are aware of the hazards and take precautions, you will be fine. OR the government can just “ban” an eliminate it for you, under the pretense of keeping everyone “SAFE”.
This takes your “choice” out of the equation and just make it illegal for everybody.

 

[mauser284]

Bullying at gun point.

I will never forgive California for the garbage gas cans we all have now! That alone should have had them kicked out of the Union for the rest of time!

 

[TAJ45]

It is in 96 oz pails. I saw the "C" listing but couldn't make any headway on the ARM designation. :/

 

[jkohler]

Just the smell of chem dip makes me sick anymore. It did work good for cleaning up carbs but it’s nasty as hell.

 

[mauser284]

Link to NASA PDF on Alternatives to 1,1,1-trichloroethane


https://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/19950025343.pdf

 

[garandman]

Just the smell of chem dip makes me sick anymore. It did work good for cleaning up carbs but it’s nasty as hell.

worse than dirty feet / rotten egg Ballistol ?

 

[Dave Way]

The brass is softer than the barrel but the carbon on the brass is way harder than the barrel.

I appreciate your response and I have read that here before but that does not mean it is necessarily correct. I hope a chemist speaks up. My little bit of research shows that there are at least 15 isotopes of Carbon. Graphite has a Mohs hardness of 1-2, extremely soft, while diamonds have the highest hardness, 10. You are saying I am removing carbon that you say is even harder than the barrel(Mohs 4-4.5) with a bronze brush(Mohs 3), which is softer than either of them. I'm not sure I buy into that. Maybe someone can convince me.

 

[garandman]

I appreciate your response and I have read that here before but that does not mean it is necessarily correct. I hope a chemist speaks up. My little bit of research shows that there are at least 15 isotopes of Carbon. Graphite has a Mohs hardness of 1-2, extremely soft, while diamonds have the highest hardness, 10. You are saying I am removing carbon that you say is even harder than the barrel(Mohs 4-4.5) with a bronze brush(Mohs 3), which is softer than either of them. I'm not sure I buy into that. Maybe someone can convince me.

I can't say that is correct, but the logic is solid to my thinking.

That said, it's my practice to run loose wet patches through till I get 90 plus percent of the carbon out

 

[Rdlningcltchdmpr]

I will never forgive California for the garbage gas cans we all have now! That alone should have had them kicked out of the Union for the rest of time!

What do you mean ( for the rest of the time ) ? Do you know something we don't ?