I can't shoot free recoil

[bozo699]

Bradley,

First I'm NOT an expert in anyway. I always consider myself as a 'newbie'.... so you can ignore me here.
However your action, barrel, stock, rest, rear bag, scope - all sound 'ok' / no problem, to me.
Your gun also weight about 14 lbs. (could be more with its wood lam stock & scope).
I really see NO reason why your gun 'twists all over the place'...to loan your term.
Even with unknown trigger & pull weight. (trigger/pullweight has nothing to do with twist or torque, it's just the way how you shoot it).
Even with the 1:8 twist barrel. 6BR is a little caliber w/ bullet somewhere in between 90-110 gr only. It should not torque much, especially that your gun weighs 14 lbs or more.
Your stock (Shehane MBR) is designed for bench/LR shooting so I don't see any problem with it - it must be quite stable & solid & should track nice/straight, too. -- So whether your rear bag (Protector) has bunny or rabbit ears.

*I have NEVER shot a 6BR & .223AI myself, anyway... but I shoot my .284 & some more others, without having problem like you said.
And I'm not trying to tell you to shoot free recoil (etc) here. Like Boyd said, it depends on your shooting style & preference. It's just strange to me that your gun twists much, and made me think Why?

My suggestion is, try to shoot your gun with different rest/front bag when you have chance!
Just shoot the way you do with your gun, same hold etc.
Make sure the rest & rear bag are parallel / inline. (this is very important)
Also try different side tension. (but normally you don't need extra tight side tension, as it would make your gun to not slide/track properly).
If your front bag is an Edgewood, forget my suggestion - it's the best front bag in the world!
I'm just wondering with your front bag now....well, just in case....
Also check if your rest is tight / not wobble etc.

To shoot well, you need all things well. I mean ALL things.

Evaluate/analyze your shooting technique, too.

By the way, a normal suppressor or muzzle break wouldn't help... unless you make special ports to counter the twist. (but then you'll get your bullets shoot all over the place).
Remember, in this case you need your gun to not twist - not to reduce the 'crack' or recoil.

Hope this help,
seb.

Bradley,
The only part of Seb's post I wouldn't pay any attention to is the first 19 words
I think with his reputation I would tend to at least listen to what he had to suggest.
Wayne.

 

[seb]

Boz, you can make me 'big headed' that way.
I said what I think true. I'm really a newbie compared to my overseas 'competitors'.
Thanks for your compliment anyway.

Brad,
Also check if your bags are too hard.

Queen_stick,
I have already very, very busy with my current work loads. I don't have interest to make stocks for sale.
It's just a hobby thing.

seb.

 

[Bradley Walker]

Brad,
Also check if your bags are too hard.

seb.

No offense meant, but compared to what?

 

[johara1]

Your gun should balance at the front of the action to about 2" out the barrel, this will get you in the ball park. trigger should be 2 oz. but 3 at the max. Your front bag should be soft not hard like a rock, you should keep a 3" block in there to keep it formed. if the gun still recoils funny move the fore end stop to adj. the weight on the front. I shoot a Dasher and a 6.5x47 free recoil with no problems......jim

 

[queen_stick]

Seb, I was just messin' with yah!

however, you did give me some inspiration to try making my own.

Walt

 

[seb]

Bradley, I wish that I can measure bag hardness with Rockwell/Brinnel scale.
Too hard is when you can hardly squeeze the bag with your fingers. Well, unless you have fingers as strong as Arnold Schwarzenegger's.

Walt, I like the idea to make your own stock. If there is anything I can help just let me know mate.

seb.

 

[dreever]

I gave up on free recoil a long time ago. I use a moderate hold (no death grip) with the rifle against the stop and the butt on my shoulder.
Works for me.

Danny

 

[Bradley Walker]

Do you weight the base of benchrest? is there a way to make the rest stay put?

 

[bozo699]

Do you weight the base of benchrest? is there a way to make the rest stay put?

What do you mean? is it sliding on the bench? is it tipping as you slide the stock against the stop?
Wayne.

 

[Bradley Walker]

Do you weight the base of benchrest? is there a way to make the rest stay put?

What do you mean? is it sliding on the bench? is it tipping as you slide the stock against the stop?
Wayne.

Tipping.

 

[bozo699]

Do you weight the base of benchrest? is there a way to make the rest stay put?

What do you mean? is it sliding on the bench? is it tipping as you slide the stock against the stop?
Wayne.

Tipping.

The reason it tips is because most bench rests were made for rimfire (no recoil) so the stop on them extend past the front legs, when your centerfire rifle recoils and you bring it back to battery and it runs into the stop all the weight and forward motion is in front of the front legs or feet, consequently it tips,...fix,...extend the front legs some way or another, I bought a new Ken Fulghum (Randolph Machine)
rest, he is a rimfire shooter,...beautiful rest but the first thing I had to do was to extend legs past the stop, problem solved,..MTlager turned me onto this and it WORKS!!
Wayne.

 

[Bradley Walker]

I had to do was to extend legs past the stop, problem solved,..MTlager turned me onto this and it WORKS!!
Wayne.

How did you do this?

 

[bozo699]

I had to do was to extend legs past the stop, problem solved,..MTlager turned me onto this and it WORKS!!
Wayne.

How did you do this?

Bradley,
I will try to post a pic tomorrow.
Wayne.