How to shoot.........

[afret]

a Remington 40XBR 22BR that has a flat bottom fore end but with an angled butt stock bottom? Can this be shot free recoil? Seems kind of a strange combo rifle stock.

Also does a front rest for shooting paper targets at 100 yards have to have a windage adjustment? Is it a requirement to shoot tiny groups? This is just for fun shooting at the range.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

No, windage is not a requirement you just slide the back bag or squeeze it to fine tune it. Free recoil is simple with those type stocks- thats the way short range br stocks are

 

[Outrider27]

When I shot benchrest back in the 70s, all the stocks that I remember seeing in light and heavy varmint were like that - the butt stock would be called a sporter configuration now.

 

[1911nut]

This is what I call a traditional short range benchrest stock.

~1975 40XBR 222

 

[Dusty Stevens]

In all the short range classes (lv & hv) you have to use them by the rules. Flat bottom forend though not like that 40x beavertail ^, so dont concern yourself with the accuracy. With a forend stop and proper rests they track better than anything else.

 

[1911nut]

That 40x is a flat forend, 2 1/2” wide. No hand stop inlet. Don’t know why they weren’t 3” but I picked up his brother same stock.

 

[Richard Coody]

Don't use a flat rear bag. Get one like this

https://protektormodel.com/collections/rear-bags/products/dr-rear-bag

 

[joshb]

Ya point da skinny end at yer target and.......

No windage needed. Great stocks. Have fun!
Pretty soon, you’ll buy a joystick front top and wonder how you ever lived without it!

 

[afret]

Thanks for all the replies. So it's possible to use free recoil with this stock with the right rear bag. That's great! As the rifle recoils back won't the rear drop and the muzzle end point upward?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

As the rifle recoils back won't the rear drop and the muzzle end point upward?

yes. No problem

 

[Lesloan]

No, windage is not a requirement you just slide the back bag or squeeze it to fine tune it. Free recoil is simple with those type stocks- thats the way short range br stocks are

A windage top isn't a requirement by any means. But it sure is convenient!

 

[1911nut]

Thanks for all the replies. So it's possible to use free recoil with this stock with the right rear bag. That's great! As the rifle recoils back won't the rear drop and the muzzle end point upward?

I’m still figuring out shooting off a bench. What I found is free recoil requires a very light trigger, 1.5-2.0 oz. I can move the dot ever so slightly shooting free recoil with a 4 or 6 oz trigger. With the stock I showed above the dot does move upward with recoil. So my shoulder catches the butt about 1/2 - 3/4” back when fired. I prep the gun in the bags so when I move the gun back ~1” and then forward against the rest stop the dot is within a bullet width from center of the mothball. When I first setup I’ll bounce the gun gently off the rest stop several times and adjust the rest/rear bag to get the dot to wind up on the mothball. When this goes as intended, the groups get small and flyers are few.

 

[afret]

I know what you mean about needing a light trigger. I think this 40XBR has a 4 oz trigger. It's my nephew's gun which I'm reloading ammo for. My brother left my nephew all his guns, rests, and reloading gear. I was working on his front rest today. I don't know what brand it is but I added a stop and put a better bag on it. Anyone recognize it?

On my Savage target action, the trigger is set at about 9 oz or so. Any lighter and the trigger locks up. Another thing about the Savage trigger is that the trigger weight seems to be around a pound when pulled slowly. The center dot moves relative to the target when pulling the trigger.

 

[1911nut]

I shoot Savage target actions with good results, a 222 with a 6 oz trigger shoots tiny bugholes. Try a light hold, watch the trigger guard or bolt doesn’t bang your hand or try a thumb on the stock behind the tang.

oh yeah don’t do this: I cut two coils off the trigger flipper thingy spring, it comes off real easy.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I know what you mean about needing a light trigger. I think this 40XBR has a 4 oz trigger. It's my nephew's gun which I'm reloading ammo for. My brother left my nephew all his guns, rests, and reloading gear. I was working on his front rest today. I don't know what brand it is but I added a stop and put a better bag on it. Anyone recognize it?

On my Savage target action, the trigger is set at about 9 oz or so. Any lighter and the trigger locks up. Another thing about the Savage trigger is that the trigger weight seems to be around a pound when pulled slowly. The center dot moves relative to the target when pulling the trigger.

Id bet thats a hart triangle judging by the feet. Its missing the bag squeezers on the side of the bag. Looks like a piece of angle as tall as the bag with a slot milled on one flat to slide it against the bag and tighten that one 1/4” hex screw

 

[JMayo]

I used a regular rear turned around backwards to fit the slope of the stock ....

If I'm understanding the conversation.....

 

[afret]

I shoot Savage target actions with good results, a 222 with a 6 oz trigger shoots tiny bugholes. Try a light hold, watch the trigger guard or bolt doesn’t bang your hand or try a thumb on the stock behind the tang.

Thank you for the shooting tips. I saw the photos of the amazing tiny groups you shot with that .222

oh yeah don’t do this: I cut two coils off the trigger flipper thingy spring, it comes off real easy.

Id bet thats a hart triangle judging by the feet. Its missing the bag squeezers on the side of the bag. Looks like a piece of angle as tall as the bag with a slot milled on one flat to slide it against the bag and tighten that one 1/4” hex screw

My brother probably bought the rest in the 80's I think I had to turn the bag squeezers around backwards to get this new bag on. He must have cut the vertical part of the squeezers down since they aren't very tall.

 

[Fast14riot]

I used a regular rear turned around backwards to fit the slope of the stock ....

If I'm understanding the conversation.....

That's what I do with my 40x stocks.

 

[afret]

I used a regular rear turned around backwards to fit the slope of the stock ....

If I'm understanding the conversation.....

Won't the slopes be opposites?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Won't the slopes be opposites?

So many people post pictures of their bags backwards i think some people think its the right way now! It does need to go with the slope.