#9,,,,most of the ctgs that people with custom bbls and actions are shooting will perform at much higher vel/pressures than the same cal in a factory "hunting" rifle,,,,there are NO reliable published sources for PPC/BR "B"enchrest rifles,,,,(or and 8 twist 22-250)you can find starting loads that are lawyered up to the point that they are not competetive ,,,,the secret to low ES/SD is to have high chamber pressure ,,,,you can weigh and measure to the .000001 gr and if you dont have adequate breech pressure it wont burn rite and it wont shoot rite,,,,just about everybody that has give you advice/load info have derived their answer from years of experience and much trial and error,,,not from a reloading manual,,,,Roger