How many Reloads from Remington .260 Brass

[eagleI]

Just bought a bag of Remington .260 Brass. How many reloads should I get before there trash. I am talking about Brass Life.

 

[StevenDzupin]

Re: How many Reloads from Remington .260 Brass

http://yarchive.net/gun/barrel/barrel_life.html


http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/11/handy-excel-formula-predicts-useful-barrel-life/

Regards,

Steve

 

[mikecr]

Re: How many Reloads from Remington .260 Brass

Steve, it doesn't sound like he's talking about barrel life, but brass life.

Brass life comes down to many variables, and your handling of them.
Cartridge design is a big one
The pressures you're running
The sizing you're applying with every reload
Your chamber match to new brass
Brass quality that you choose to actually use

I put as much efforts into carefully choosing and keeping brass, as prepping it. So my resulting brass life greatly exceeds barrel life.
But as with most anything in reloading, my approach is just opposite of typical...

 

[260Ravage]

Re: How many Reloads from Remington .260 Brass

I neck size only and have zero headspace, and only use lapua brass. (308 necked down to .264) My cases do not stretch and I never have to trim them for length. The batch I am shooting now have been reloaded 14 times and show no wear and tear, except the headstamp is hardly legible. I do not shoot a hot load.

 

[eagleI]

260Ravage...What made you choose to neck down .308 instead of neck up .243? Do you get donuts at the base of your necks? And Why the heck wont Lapua produce .260 brass....is it a legal thing with Remington.

 

[BoydAllen]

The life that you get from your brass will depend on how much you move it when sizing, and how well you pay attention to where your shoulders are bumped to. With a custom die, that is a very close to your chamber, and a chamber neck dimension that minimizes neck expansion when firing, your brass can last a very long time, as long as you aren't loosening primer pockets by running loads that are hot enough to cause that problem. If everything else is good, it can be worthwhile annealing cases, BUT there is a massive amount of bad to poor information that has made it into print, and been repeated on the internet, on the subject of annealing, so proceed with caution, and testing, before you do anything to a large number of cases.

 

[KaiserNorton]

260Ravage... And Why the heck wont Lapua produce .260 brass....is it a legal thing with Remington.

Probably becuase they have their own 6.5, and think it to be a better mousetrap - so why waste the effort.

 

[kemen4]

As said above - it depends how you treat it ..
Sinclairs carries 260 by Nosler, Wincheter, Norma ... there's also another German company making it too. so perhaps Lapua don't see a demand yet?

 

[KevinThomas]

Yeah, actually we do see the demand. New catalogs are coming out shortly, just in time for the SHOT show. Might want to keep an eye out for them!


Kevin Thomas
Lapua USA

 

[260Ravage]

I choose to downsize the 308 vs. 243 cause I have the .308s on hand. I outside turn to get proper neck tension. I do not understand the ''donut'' that others refer to. I must have have the donut for the gun reeeaaaly shoots well.
I anneal after a couple firings. I'd guess opening a nck on a .243 case would be just as effective. I use lapua any time I can. It is consistant and long lasting.

 

[260Ravage]

oh I forgot something! I neck size only with the Lee Collet die. It works.

 

[2644ever]

Right on, Ravage! Didn't see no doughnut with .308 brass from any brand necked down to .260. Did get doughnuts from .243 brass from Lapua, RWS and Norma, though. I was in a hurry so i just chucked a .264 throater in my drill, as the pilot nicely fitted the necks and the dougnuts never came back ;D

 

[15Tango]

You can push that Lapua pretty darn hard. If you're not going completely insane with your loads and you anneal, I bet a set of brass will last as long as the barrel.

Wayne

 

[eagleI]

Yeah, actually we do see the demand. New catalogs are coming out shortly, just in time for the SHOT show. Might want to keep an eye out for them!


Kevin Thomas
Lapua USA

Holy crap...Awesome!!! That would be nice. Yeah and about the demand, hell it seems like .260 or bust out there.

 

[Scott Harris]

The life that you get from your brass will depend on how much you move it when sizing, and how well you pay attention to where your shoulders are bumped to. With a custom die, that is a very close to your chamber, and a chamber neck dimension that minimizes neck expansion when firing, your brass can last a very long time, as long as you aren't loosening primer pockets by running loads that are hot enough to cause that problem. If everything else is good, it can be worthwhile annealing cases, BUT there is a massive amount of bad to poor information that has made it into print, and been repeated on the internet, on the subject of annealing, so proceed with caution, and testing, before you do anything to a large number of cases.

+1 Boyd's da'man

 

[memilanuk]

Yeah, actually we do see the demand. New catalogs are coming out shortly, just in time for the SHOT show. Might want to keep an eye out for them!

Dang, Kevin. Now you just gone and went and made my choice between the 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Rem a whole lot harder

Keep up the good work!

 

[15Tango]

Dang, Kevin. Now you just gone and went and made my choice between the 6.5 Creedmoor and .260 Rem a whole lot harder

Don't let brass be a deciding factor there, from your other post you know you can get Lapua brass for either cartridge.

This may start some riff, but the Creedmoor seems to be less tweaky to tune than the .260 and gets as good or better velocity using less powder and in a cartridge that doesn't give up as much capacity when seating bullets short.

If Lapua makes 260 brass soon I'll probably use that next time I form Creedmoor brass, one less step necking up/down so it'd streamline the process.

Wayne

 

[memilanuk]

...you can get Lapua brass for either cartridge.

In a round-about sort of way, yes. I've formed 6.5-08 brass from necking down both Winchester and Lapua .308 cases. The winchester stuff necked down perfectly (bought a cheap 7-08 die for an intermediate step) and I only neck-turned at the end for a light clean-up because, not because I had to. Using Lapua .308... it was pretty much a 'must'. Forming from .243 was just begging for donuts, and sometimes the dang things would re-appear as brass flowed from the thicker shoulders straight into the neck junction. So to me, forming brass by necking up from a smaller cartridge is something that there had better be a pretty good reason - or no other feasible option - before I go that route.

Now if forming 6.5 CM brass from Lapua .260 Rem brass is a viable option... *that* might be worth some investigation!

 

[15Tango]

Now if forming 6.5 CM brass from Lapua .260 Rem brass is a viable option... *that* might be worth some investigation!

If Lapua does indeed bring it out it'll be the most viable option in my opinion. I remember when they brought out their 22-250 brass last year everybody was excited but not many were actually using it for 22-250 - they were making it into something else. I suspect the 260 might be the same story.

As for the donut issue on the 6.5CM - you'll end up with it no matter what if forming from the 308 family as part of the shoulder ends up being neck with any of them. Turn it out and it's not an issue. It's also a little less of an issue with the 6.5CM vs 260 as the neck's longer and shoulder pushed back so your bullets typically aren't seated into the donut area to begin with. With the 308 family you end up having to lob off a good piece of the neck after forming as it's too long, it's not as long as the 308 because the body gets pushed out but it's still longer than the 1.920" max Creedmoor length.

With the 22-250 brass you don't have the donut issue as much but you lose a tiny bit of length on the neck and it's actually shorter than what it's supposed to be. It's never been an issue for me though.

Wayne

 

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