How many matches before you get your classification?

[mao0720]

How many matches do you have to compete in before you get your initial classification from the NRA?

 

[Steve Blair]

Hundreds and hundreds. [br]
Seriously, 120 record shots in Approved or Registered matches. NRA Competition is not known for speed or efficiency. Patience!

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Well, in fact it has very little to do with the NRA. It has much more to do with the match directors sending in the scores for the matches you attended.

I work on the scores for the monthly Sunday match that evening and I send the match bulletin to our webmaster the next day, Monday. That usually gets sent out via email during that day or the next. I wait a couple of days to hear if someone complains about a score I may have bungled. (Some people's handwriting can be quite impenetrable, a veritable cypher.) If I hear nothing, by Thursday I prepare the NRA report and it's mailed at that time. So, Sunday match; email and web scores on Monday, NRA report gone by Thursday. Within a few weeks of that, people who have reached the point where action is required on their classification will be getting their cards in the mail.

Very often, people who have qualified one month, will have their cards in time for the next month's match.

Moral of the story, check with the match directors to see if they have sent in the reports, then count a couple of weeks from that point. You can also call or email the NRA to see if they have received them and when they are going out. The NRA used to do a run every Thursday, I believe, but that was a while back so I don't know for sure anymore. Also, you can check on-line to see when the change occurs.

http://compete.nra.org/shooter-classification-lookup.aspx

When you see it there, the card is in the mail.

If you do not have an NRA number, I don't believe you can check on-line, but your card will come in the mail regardless.

 

[effendude]

Mason,
I encourage new shooters to use the NRA Temporary Classification Book until they receive their offical classification from the NRA. As others have noted, this can take a long time. The temp book has pages where match officials can record your scores from approved and registered matches and sign off that you shot. Most match directors will honor these books as that is what they are designed for. PM me if you can't get one and I will mail one to you.
Scott

 

[mao0720]

I have used the NRA Shooter Classification look-up before. I wasn't being impatient, I just really had no idea how many matches (or record shots) it took to get you initial classification. SO once I qualify for my initial classification, they will send the little record book out to me?

 

[fdshuster]

Not the number of match's fired, but the number of rounds fired that is required for a permanent classification, and that number depends on the type of shooting. Most require somewhere around 120 rounds fired and reported to the NRA.

By all means you want to use the temporary classification that was averaged in the first registered match fired. Otherwise, a new shooter will be competing in the Master or High Master class, til they get the card.

When competing and firing scores in the next higher class, as soon as those number of shots are fired a new classification card will be issued with lightning speed, seems like just a few days from when the scores were fired, the new card is in the mail.

 

[effendude]

The NRA won't send anything but your official classification card. A temp classification book is a little known secret that is available but not sent to shooters. You have to secure one yourself.
Scott

 

[mao0720]

OK next question. Where can I find the breakdown of how the NRA makes classifications? What I mean is where are the minimum scores posted for each level of classification?

 

[Jay Christopherson]

OK next question. Where can I find the breakdown of how the NRA makes classifications? What I mean is where are the minimum scores posted for each level of classification?

http://compete.nra.org/documents/pdf/compete/RuleBooks/HPR/hpr-book.pdf

(since I know you are referring to F-Class classifications... )

Pages 72/73.

Table III
Individual F-Class
High Master ................................................ 98.00 and above
Master ............................................................ 96.50 to 97.99
Expert ............................................................94.00 to 96.49
Sharpshooter .................................................. 91.50 to 93.99
Marksman ......................................................... Below 91.49

 

[mao0720]

Is that percentage of possible score? I see that the rule book said it was a 10 shot average. Can I pick the 10 shot?

 

[Erik Cortina]

Is that percentage of possible score? I see that the rule book said it was a 10 shot average. Can I pick the 10 shot?

It's a percentage of possible score.
196 or above for 20 shot match for HM.
147 or above for 15 shot match for HM.

For high master, you must average 98% over 120 shots.

 

[skiutah02]

As a (relatively) new shooter. I can give a realworld timeline. 1st Midrange match late Aug 2013 (60 shots for record+15 for team match), 2nd match very early Oct 2013 (60 shots for record). Card issued Nov 13 2013 and received in mail 2nd week of Dec 2013.

That being said, I have shot in Mid-Range early April (80 shots), late May (60 shots) and this past weekend (60 shots team and 60 shots individual) and no new card yet nor online update.

Also did some longrange matches: early May (60 or 80 shots can't remember), early June (45 shots/palma and 80 shots at 1000) and no card yet.

I'll add another question about the 120 shots review. When the "next" 120 shot threshhold is crossed is the reevaluation done using shots 121-240 or the last 120 shots recorded once the "next" 120 threshhold is crossed.

Drew

 

[Erik Cortina]

I'm not sure how it's done, but what makes sense to me is if after they input your scores, the system would average the last 120 shots entered and calculate classification.

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Drew, check with the match directors as those matches to see if the scores were sent in. Without scores, the NRA cannot do anything.

Now for your threshold question. Once scores have been used for a classification or reclassification, they cannot be used again.

So 120 shots to get your first classification. You will need another 120 shots to get the next classification.

 

[skiutah02]

Bayou and Erik - thanks. I do understand the new 120, but perhaps I was unclear. Lets say I have 135 shots and the 1st 120 gave me Marksman. Now I do 60 more, (not yet at 240), but then I do 60+80 in a match. Now I will have 335 total and should get reclassified. Assuming that either way I would move up, does the system use shots 121-240 or shots 216-335. Does that clarify?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

It does, but I'm not sure. The rules specify 120 consecutive shots for reclassification, but I do not know how the NRA deals with partial scores and similar additions. You might want to call them and ask. And then come back here and tell us.

It also depends if the match director sent in the scores for team matches.

 

[fdshuster]

Mason O: Contact the NRA, Competitive Shooting office, (703) 267 1468, and request a rule book for whatever discipline you are shooting. Most of your questions if not all of your questions will be answered.

 

[DE-F-Open]

Or, you can simply go online to the NRA Competitions Division and the Rule Books are on line.

DE-F-Open

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Yeah, but not his latest question.

 

[fdshuster]

It's sometimes handy to have a copy of the most current rule book with you when competing in match's. For their cost (free to NRA members) they are well worth it.