Hornady Lock-N-Load Concentricity Gauge

[DennisH]

What is your thought on the above Guage!

Get a Redding seater, or a Wilson Seater, or get the above guage?

I haven't heard too much about it other than you can straighten your bullet out after measuring!

Just looking for opinions,

Dennis

 

[fdshuster]

Dennis: I tried one when they first became available. While I know others report great results with it, I did not like it. "Made in China" really turns me off, so that was one strike against it.

I could take loaded rounds that showed as much as .007" of runout on my Sinclair Concintricity Dial Indicator gauge, put the same round in the Hornady & it would show less than .002".

They do use different methods, case head to bullet tip versus contact points on the case head and front of the body, for taking the reading, so, I'm left with the question: which is correct? Bottom line, for me, is that I have more faith in the Sinclair Gauge.

I just work harder at making loads that have as little runout as possible, for the very few that always remain "crooked", I use them for first round foulers, basic scope sight-in & 100 yd. where as much as .005" of R/O does not seem to matter. Of course they are never used in a match.

p.s.: I also found their dial indicator to be of very poor quality, compared to the Sinclair.

 

[DennisH]

As per German Salazar, I might just get the Redding seating comp die or maybe a Wilson and not worry about checking the Concentricity!

Dennis

 

[fdshuster]

Dennis: Don't overlook the Forster Benchrest Micrometer seater die. They are my #1 choice for a 7/8" x 3/4" threaded seating die.

I really like the .025" of adjustment with each 360 revolution compared to .050" with the Redding. A big, heavy, solid seating die.

$72 for the Forster compared to $97 for the Redding is another plus.

 

[bozo699]

Dennis: Don't overlook the Forster Benchrest Micrometer seater die. They are my #1 choice for a 7/8" x 3/4" threaded seating die.

I really like the .025" of adjustment with each 360 revolution compared to .050" with the Redding. A big, heavy, solid seating die.

$72 for the Forster compared to $97 for the Redding is another plus.

Dennis,
I agree with both of Frank's posts to a tee,...my findings exactly!
I prefer inline dies but for a threaded die the Forster is hard to beat. If your not running tons of neck tension you can straighten rounds on the Sinclair by holding your thumb on the case head and with your index finger on the left hand push on the bullet when it is on it's low side on indicator, I do it all the time.
Wayne.

 

[BoydAllen]

If you want to measure and straighten loaded rounds the H&H is a better tool. I own four concentricity gauges, two Sinclair, one Holland, and a H&H. In addition to these I have written about and used another that was designed to straighten. IMO gauges are best used to diagnose die problems, but if you want to straighten, I have easily straightened to a TIR of .00075 while loading at a match. Besides they are great for making other shooters worry about their ammo.

 

[DennisH]

I tried a quick search on the H&H, found information, but didn't see where to buy one.

What company sells them now?

Thanks, Dennis

 

[BoydAllen]

His web site is hosted on Benchrest Central and is somehow out of whack. Here is a link that should give you the contact information that you need. They are sold by the fellow that makes them. Leave him a message, or send an email.
http://benchrest.com/hnh/index.htm

 

[pricedo]

Junk !

 

[dig]

I have (or had) the Hornady, NECO and H&H Straitening is fruitless. The H&H is the best gauge, design is great leaves little to human error they are great to deal with as well.

 

[DennisH]

If your not running tons of neck tension you can straighten rounds on the Sinclair by holding your thumb on the case head and with your index finger on the left hand push on the bullet when it is on it's low side on indicator, I do it all the time.

Are you straightening the bullet or bendng the neck a little with the above process?

Seems the ball bearings might put a little dent in the brass as well.

JUST ASKING, someone made the suggestion to drill a hole in a board and insert the bullet in the hole and apply a little pressure, then remeasure!

I do have the Sinclair Concentricity Guage!

Dennis

 

[bozo699]

If your not running tons of neck tension you can straighten rounds on the Sinclair by holding your thumb on the case head and with your index finger on the left hand push on the bullet when it is on it's low side on indicator, I do it all the time.

Are you straightening the bullet or bendng the neck a little with the above process?

Seems the ball bearings might put a little dent in the brass as well.

JUST ASKING, someone made the suggestion to drill a hole in a board and insert the bullet in the hole and apply a little pressure, then remeasure!

I do have the Sinclair Concentricity Guage!

Dennis

Dennis,
No matter if your using the Hornaday, H&H, or any other concentricity tool or a board with a hole in it if your pushing on the bullet to straighten things out something has to give, either the bullet is sitting cocked in the neck or the neck is crooked, either way if you push hard enough on the bullet since the neck is less rigid then the bullet guess which one is going to give? I have used this process though on thousands of rounds and have never dinged a case with the ball bearings although I run .001 or less neck tension on my competition rounds I suppose on a factory round with a lot of tension this could happen although I doubt you could push hard enough to move the bullet or ding the case.
Wayne.

 

[fm1947]

I have one and I use it on every reload I think it is great.