Hornady 7mm 162gr eld match
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You'll find the advertised BC is higher than the actual bullet. Still is a bit better than the Amax but not all that noticeable. Shoots as well as the Amax too. Good luck. Post your results when you shoot them.
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Pretty simple. When I load the old Amax and they are giving me an MOA at 600 yards and then I load a 162 eld and it's giving me the same MOA, it's pretty much a given. I've shot the 162 Amax for many years from a few 7mm platforms. Based on all the drop data on those guns, the 162 amax and elds are very close. Certainly much closer than Hornadys .670 advertised BC. Hornady is one of those companies that does get there BC very close unlike many other companies claims. I'm certain than when Litz does some runs on this particular bullet, you'll see quite a difference as well.
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The BC changes with the velocity and that is why Hornady gives there three velocity bands with all the new ELD bullets they have tested using Doppler radar, which is a very accurate way to get BC.
You can see the bands here.
Www.hornady.com/BC
You can see the bands here.
Www.hornady.com/BC
Yep I understand that. The advertised single number that they give on there bullet site is the .670. Somewhat high from my drop data in the field.
Yes it might be if your velocity isn't where that BC is. That BC is a 200 yard average which is used by most companies to give a apples to apples for the consumer who is looking to buy the bullet and comparing BCs. If you wanted a good number for 1000 yards or so I would average the three band BCs and it comes to about .654.
Yep that sounds about right. It's my experience that the eld-m isn't quite that slippery tho. I'm sure my measurement isn't perfect but I'm only comparing it to my Amax drop. It's very very close from the same couple guns and same velocities. Again I DO believe it's a bit more slick but I think I'd put it between 625-650. I won't know exactly from my perspective until I get out to 1000 yards here pretty quick. My range is only 500 yards here at home and 600 locally at my closest range. Need to put a few more highway miles to get to the 1000 yard range. That will tell the true story. I really hope the 1000 yard makes that difference up. Love the bullet. Love the 180 as well
I've played with them enough now that I've settled on a 307 bc. It is consistent in that area for slow movingish slow twist rifles and saum speed fast twist. All were very early batches though so there could be some explanation there. Also they all measured identical to my stash of amax.
Would that mean that the eld-m tips melt too, or the amax tips never had an issue? Hmmm...
Well I can't say what others or Hornady actually discovered in the tips melting but I recovered several 140 and 162 Amax tips shot from beyond 800 yards and no melting was evidenced in any of mine. Beyond 1000 I cannot say. The tips were not intact but still pretty uniform and not what I would expect melting to do. Shoot one into a duffel bag full of sand backed by a block of foam. You'll find it in the foam 80% of the time and in decent shape.
That I believe !!!
By now it shouldn't surprise anyone what a company will do to reinvent something just to increase the price or relabel it into something "they say" is different. It happens all the time. I'm pretty happy with the price of the new replacement at this point as they could have been priced like the TMK or Nosler LR Accubonds. Ridiculously high. Thankfully Hornady realizes that affordability keeps people shooting.
I'll remeasure mine but initial check was they measured the same or within the same gray area as a lot to lot variation. These are all early release clearish tip eld though. 305-307 worked with amax and eld so far out to a mile.
I initially trusted the box numbers of 627\313 and took them to the lone survivor prs match and found out quick with the small targets out past 700 that number was too high. More tests were done after that and both a fast saum with fast twist and a slow 7mm-08 with slow twist yeilded 307.
Maybe you guys should update Hornady tech......
Not sure who wrote that but I will make mention of it. Having personally spoken with the engineers who worked on the ELD bullet line I know they are not the same bullets. They have had slight design changes made to increase the BC as well as the tips. I think some confusion comes in as you can use the same AMAX handloading data for the similar weight ELD bullets but the billets themselves are not the same.
Really no big deal. There within the same basic ballistic profile for matching to the old version. My drop data is about identical. Whether Hornady techs say they are different or not really does not change anything. That's what they sell so that's what I'll buy and keep buying if they keep shooting well. I think most Hornady Amax/ELD shooters will agree.
Can't speak to your tests as I wasn't there but the velocities especially at longer ranges will effect the BC. Also if looking for an average BC for long range then then the box number isn't the one to use. It's an average 200 yard BC to give people an apples to apples comparison with other brands. If you go to the Hornady page with their banded BCs and average the three bands that will work better at longer range.
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