Horizontal stringing ?
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Dusty Stevens
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Wind.
What's up with vertical split rings..? I run a set of steel warne on a .308....
Guys up in AK have found that vertical split rings are causing vertical stringing.
Are you shooting free recoil? I do, and find a very small amount of thumb pressure will throw a shot. Last weekend I put 4 of 5 at 100 yds into a group that measured .09" CTC and one at 9 o'clock that opened it to .5"
Very frustrating
Wobbly benches at a public range, neighbors with 300 WM and brakes blowing my headset off MAY be a factor.
.223, 69g lapua,Varget, BR 4, Criterion 26 in 8 twist. Wind freshening rapidly post frontal.
Very frustrating
Wobbly benches at a public range, neighbors with 300 WM and brakes blowing my headset off MAY be a factor.
.223, 69g lapua,Varget, BR 4, Criterion 26 in 8 twist. Wind freshening rapidly post frontal.
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Never witnessed this,and I shoot down to about 30 below zero . Who in AK is claiming this,benchrest folks ? That is an interesting concept .
What is your setup ,and what size groups are you getting ? Bullet weight ?
I am not having problems either... It is a 12.5 lbs tactical rifle ( .308 ) and there's not really recoil in my opinion.... My wife shot it and said ohh that's not bad and she doesn't do heavy recoil... I don't shoot it like you guys shoot in competition but I am not scared to take it out for a day of fun shooting groups so it gets shot useing not what I would call powder puff loads... 168gr Matchking at about 2700fps... Not trying to argue with anyone , just am not seeing it either in my case...
eric n
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How much vertical?
What g bullet?
How big is your oval?
Wind will blow the .223.
Could be a few things but the most likely reason is wind. Do you know how much it was blowing between you and the target when you pulled the trigger?
Put a pic up of a group you feel is avg for you.
What g bullet?
How big is your oval?
Wind will blow the .223.
Could be a few things but the most likely reason is wind. Do you know how much it was blowing between you and the target when you pulled the trigger?
Put a pic up of a group you feel is avg for you.
Yes sir it must have been a wobbly bench that coused that flyer... It happens to me all the time... I need to change benches...lolAre you shooting free recoil? I do, and find a very small amount of thumb pressure will throw a shot. Last weekend I put 4 of 5 at 100 yds into a group that measured .09" CTC and one at 9 o'clock the opened it to .5"
Very frustrating
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Wobbly benches at a public range, neighbors with 300 WM and brakes blowing my headset off MAY be a factor.
Just kidding Texas , that is so frustrating.... I lose concentration every darn time I am doing good.... When I hear that , ok don't screw up , this is a great group go through my mind it's OVER on the next shot.. plus totally agree it never fails that the guy with the 105 howitzer sits one bench down and shoots 100 yards and shoots it bad... I suggested the other day to the board members we put up some kind of dividers to help with this and inconsiderate automatic shooters and flying brass...
I hate to say it but I had an idiot sit on my left last year with an AR and once a piece of brass hit my rifle I went to the truck , put up the bolt gun I was shooting , pulled out my M4 , moved over to his left and spent a 30 round mag giving him some brass to take home and reload.. I have done alot of work to that rifle and it ejects in the same spot everytime.... This jackass actually said , hey your brass is flying over here... LOL I said well yes it is isn't it , do you reload , if so you can have that brass and I will take yours that you were hitting me with... I wonder if he learned anything that day.... Just btw there was plenty of benches to my right he could have sat at , he just didn't... I had my brass catcher in my truck I take to not do that to people and to keep my brass and I could have gotten it out , I just didn't....lol
CharlieNC
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When you say "consistent" egg shaped mostly horizontal that implies you have ruled out wind, shooter error, etc and now want to know something about the rifle and loads which may be involved. Those are all valid factors that are common causes of horizontal. I have found when during load development that changes in charge weight, which is optimized to find an insensitive node based on vertical poi changes, typically exhibits a similar response on horizontal movement. The degree of horizontal vs vertical varies based on what I am shooting, and the high degree of correlation suggests the barrel vibration is more along a 45deg direction than primarily vertical harmonics in some cases. Makes me think a bit about the best way to time a barrel, of which I know nothing about.
So if you developed this load perhaps look back at how the horizontal responded during that time.
So if you developed this load perhaps look back at how the horizontal responded during that time.
Are you shooting free recoil? I do, and find a very small amount of thumb pressure will throw a shot. Last weekend I put 4 of 5 at 100 yds into a group that measured .09" CTC and one at 9 o'clock that opened it to .5"
Very frustrating
View attachment 1135773
Wobbly benches at a public range, neighbors with 300 WM and brakes blowing my headset off MAY be a factor.
.223, 69g lapua,Varget, BR 4, Criterion 26 in 8 twist. Wind freshing rapidly post frontal.
Thanks for showing that photo of 5 shot group that was spoiled due to the one flyer. I only shoot 5 shot groups and have tons of targets like that. It's nice to know it's not just me that this happens to. lol
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Are you shooting free recoil? I do, and find a very small amount of thumb pressure will throw a shot. Last weekend I put 4 of 5 at 100 yds into a group that measured .09" CTC and one at 9 o'clock that opened it to .5"
Very frustrating
View attachment 1135773
Wobbly benches at a public range, neighbors with 300 WM and brakes blowing my headset off MAY be a factor.
.223, 69g lapua,Varget, BR 4, Criterion 26 in 8 twist. Wind freshing rapidly post frontal.
What’s your procedure to have consistent thumb pressure?
Dusty Stevens
Shiner
i thought i read somewhere that wood benches were preferred?
That's the problem. I obviously don't have a consistent method, as exemplified by that target! The pad of my trigger finger on the Target Accutrigger safety blade, and a very light thumb on the top of the stock, behind the safety, just to help steady. Trigger is set at 6-7 oz.
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