Hodgdon Powder Message

[Delfuego]

If you monitor sites closely enough, it's surprising what you can get. I check Powder Valley multiple times per hour.

 

[No manches"]

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That's a good one!....

 

[Migolito]

I have no doubt Hodgdon is making powder at capacity. The problem for Hodgdon, and quite frankly many manufacturers in the Firearms industry is, they believe their commitment to us(the customer who brought them to this dance $$$) ends at that...manufacturing. In other words once it leaves their hands into the labyrinth of distribution Hodgdon has no responsibility after that. Hodgdon gets to show Youtube Videos of manufacturing and empty warehouses and tell us "see, nothing to see here..". They blame 'supply chain' Covid, Wars, weather, strikes, etc. They even say they can't do anything about the gouging! In otherwords, they are helpless.
Here's an easy fix Hodgdon, Hornady, Redding, etc; 1. Next time MIdway, Brownells, Basspro, whoever sells one of your products for more than retail...ban them from ever selling your product again. That means forever. 2. Prevent employees from these companies from buying and then selling your product on the various online sites..see above. 3. Advise your 'distributors' that IF any lot of your products is delivered to anyplace other than where you designate, you will ban them AND the receiver of the product...permanently.

Do this simple thing above, and suddenly the shortage ends.

 

[nakneker]

One of obvious and biggest problems are those flipping powder and primers for profit. I’m sure many of them don’t even participate in the shooting sports. Just makes the hunt harder for those of us who truly use the products and enjoy reloading. I’m not sure what you do about that either other than wait it out. Many of us have been through this before and it took a years to calm down and I believe it will calm down again albeit it might take longer this time. We shall see. The lesson I learned during the last shortage was to buy heavy when the supply chain is full and prices are reasonable, which I did.

I’ve passed on Varget and H4350 multiple times over the last couple of weeks. It’s there and it’s gone quickly. It takes a lot of effort to find and buy right now, which is a total PIA. Local gun stores are worth visiting, I’ve watched varget sit on the shelves for over a week at one local gun store. WTB ads have helped me find a few things. I just bought my first 22 hornet and couldn’t find much in the way of bullets. A WTB ad fixed that with a variety and good quantity of suitable projectiles for the hornet thanks to many of the forums fine members. I found powder and brass, could have bought primers etc. Things will calm but until it does people are gonna gave to hunt for what they need, unless you want to pay stupid money on places like GB.

 

[DiffEQ]

Have enough primers, brass, bullets, hulls, shot and lead to burn through >130 lbs of powder. dont have enough barrel....

 

[Just Say Moe]

Years ago in Camden AR, a munitions storage igloo at the old arsenal exploded. It turned out that it was leased to whoever had the Alliant line and 10-20k lbs of powder stored in there. There are dozens of igloos down there.

If I were to guess, I would guess they have 100's of thousands of pounds stored somewhere (excepting the Australian made stuff) and they have it on allocation releasing bits at a time to prevent hoarding. If they released all 200K lbs they had on hand, it would sell out and there would be months or years before it was restocked.

I speculate that this industry does not use the "just in time" model where they don't make it until there is an order from it but am not sure.

In pharmacy, major drug shortages use allocation to prevent major stockouts and scalpers from getting any.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Years ago in Camden AR, a munitions storage igloo at the old arsenal exploded. It turned out that it was leased to whoever had the Alliant line and 10-20k lbs of powder stored in there. There are dozens of igloos down there.

If I were to guess, I would guess they have 100's of thousands of pounds stored somewhere (excepting the Australian made stuff) and they have it on allocation releasing bits at a time to prevent hoarding. If they released all 200K lbs they had on hand, it would sell out and there would be months or years before it was restocked.

I speculate that this industry does not use the "just in time" model where they don't make it until there is an order from it but am not sure.

In pharmacy, major drug shortages use allocation to prevent major stockouts and scalpers from getting any.

Those army ammunitions plants have that powder allocated for military use. There was one in karnack, tx that had those little concrete huts that stored 10,000lbs of powder. Those huts were as far as you could see.