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Hihg Point 10 mm rifle

A buddy of mine buys guns for fun and today his latest was a High Point Semi 10 mm rifle. Pretty cool pile of plastic ! Loaded the 10 round magazine with PUP ammo, rolled the target ( 3 inch red dot out) to about twenty feet and fired. All 10 went into a group as tight as a very very good 1911 could shoot. The sights were right on....... right out of the box . No jams and no FTF or eject.....I was impressed.
 
A buddy of mine buys guns for fun and today his latest was a High Point Semi 10 mm rifle. Pretty cool pile of plastic ! Loaded the 10 round magazine with PUP ammo, rolled the target ( 3 inch red dot out) to about twenty feet and fired. All 10 went into a group as tight as a very very good 1911 could shoot. The sights were right on....... right out of the box . No jams and no FTF or eject.....I was impressed.

Some of my friends went on the Highpoint carbine kick. a 9mm, 40, and 45 were represented and I've shot all of them.

They bought them on sale in the $270 range. They all work/worked great, except for the 9mm that one of those guys tried doing a trigger job on, lol.

For the price....

So I went and spent about 5 times the price on a really nice 9mm semiautomatic, that's just how I am.
 
It is surprising how bad the handguns are but the carbines do seem like a decent product.
I belong to another Forum where several of the members have High-Point handguns. All talk about how reliable they are, they all say they hardly ever experienced a malfunction that was caused by the gun. I wouldn't want one except maybe as a last resort, they're are strictly blow-back operated. If I'm shooting 9MM or larger, I want a locked breech gun, that and they are just plain fugly.
 
I have one of the early 9mm carbines. I've worked on several and also the pistols. The carbines work fine except for the magazines. I haven't seen any of the later ones, hopefully they fixed them. With the ones I worked on, they all stovepipe jam trying to feed. 1 to 3 per magazine would jam.
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It's a design flaw in the magazine lips. They have a sharp edge that causes the round to pivot on the extractor groove. You can push a round out with your finger and when it reaches this point, it stands straight up.
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The fix is to radius the front of the feed lips and deburr everything. Now the rounds push out and pop straight up after clearing the lips but are still horizontal. I have never had another failure to feed after this modification. I even tried slapping the rounds forward in the magazine and fired the rifle upside down and is still worked 100% of the time with several different brands of ammo.
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Forgot to add. There is only one round that won't feed in this rifle. The short/blunt CorBon 9mm JHP+P. It tries to jam into the feed ramp. Polishing the ramp didn't cure the problem. I've seen this happen in other firearms. The defensive round I use is the CorBon Powerball 9mm +P. 1,720 fps out of this carbine.
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I belong to another Forum where several of the members have High-Point handguns. All talk about how reliable they are, they all say they hardly ever experienced a malfunction that was caused by the gun. I wouldn't want one except maybe as a last resort, they're are strictly blow-back operated. If I'm shooting 9MM or larger, I want a locked breech gun, that and they are just plain fugly.
They are true with a malfunction caused by the gun. If you grip it like it should be then they are crap. If you grip it near the bottom of the grip to keep your hand away from the slide then you are good.
 
I cant believe high point is still in business- I mean how could anybody even get far enough to figure out how to modify the magazines to make them feed like they should from the factory? does the factory even care that they dont work? they do have cutting edge styling in their pistol lineup- that extra 4lbs of metal in the oversized slide is nice.
 
I got the 9mm carbine as a gift. Why not do a little to it to make it run? The reason they sold was simply price. 13-14 years when I got mine, the pistols were under $100 and the carbines about $129-$139. With a bit of work both will run fine. I remember when I took my concealed carry class in 2004 (1st year available on Ohio) a buddy took a HiPoint 9mm pistol. A couple of people laughed at it including the trainer. Funny though, his ran and fired everything ok and a guy with a brand new Glock 9mm had nothing but trouble constantly jamming and wouldn't eject part of the time. I wouldn't buy a HiPoint if I could afford anything else. The pistols are heavy, bulky, and too big to carry concealed in most cases.

Anyway, I worked on his pistol too. Same basic problems as the carbines. The feed ramp had paint on it. That needed to be removed and I polished the ramp. The other thing that causes jams in feeding are the magazine lips. They are pinched in too tight in the front causing the nose of the round to hit the feed ramp at the wrong angle. And with a hollow point, it would sometimes jam.
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After fending the lips, it should feed at this angle.
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If it gives the 10mm more attention than I'm all in . The 10mm is a beast . At least it's not another 10mm in the 1911 platform. They have beat the 1911 10mm like a dead horse .
 

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