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Here's my p-dog hunt...2017 South Dakota

What a great trip out to South Dakota. After a ~3,000 mile road trip, I thought I would share. This is my second time out to p-dog hunt in SD and I learned so much more than my first time out. I decided this time around to try it on my own for the first two days to compare it to a guided hunt. While not comparing apples to apples, it did give me an idea of what to look for. Below are pictures to add to the story.

We started our adventure with a hunt in the Fort Pierre National Grasslands. After doing my homework and research, we had a plan. We made it out to Ft. Pierre and immediately starting looking for dog towns. After a little glassing, we found what we were after. Below is a picture of our first stop.

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We hunted until about 7 pm that evening and was having a blast. While the dogs were shy, we figured we shot about 50 rounds each b/t the two of us over about 4 hours. As we came back to the gravel road, we ran over a piece of metal in the road. This was a downer as we now had a flat and had to find the spare tire on the van. After an hour of this, we headed into Ft. Pierre for dinner at 9:30pm. It was still daylight as we were eating.

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After getting a new tire the next morning (tire couldn't be patched), we headed out for another 1/2 day of hunting before heading West to meet with our guide on a guided 3-day hunt. On this 1/2 day hunt, we decided again to try the Ft. Pierre National Grassland on a different dog town. This time, we had about a 1.5 mile jaunt back to a dog town. This was a decent sized dog town. It had been shot over quite a bit and the dogs were once again shy. We shot about 60 rounds each that day before heading out. Dogs range from 150-500+ yards.

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After a two hour drive West, we ended up at our destination. This was a guided 3-day hunt and the rancher put us up in his ranch house next to the family house. This place had all the comforts of home including satellite TV. We were greeted by the rancher and family and had dinner with them that evening. These folks were great people who made me feel welcomed. I was excited to see what the next few days would bring.

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We woke on the morning of our first day out with our guide. We had checked the weather for SD prior to leaving and the weather appeared favorable. However, after having a quick breakfast and a 40 minute drive to the p-dog town, what we found were winds gusting up to 47 mph. This was something I had no experience with being from an area with usually 5-15 mph winds. The guide had us setup behind a wind break in the field which helped cuts the winds. We quickly learned that we had to figured the wind out as the wind was 90 degrees to us. The dogs were up and we started glassing. We were both using 223s. I was shooting 55 gr ZMAX behind 25.0 gr of Benchmark for a velocity of 3,280 fps in a 26" 1/12 twist barrel. My buddy was shooting factory Fiocchi Extrema 40 gr VMAX which was screaming out of his 26" barrel. He was getting 3,720 fps. He tried heavier bullets later and he didn't seem to like them as well. The Zeiss scopes with the Z-Varmint reticles were the ticket as we had confirmed that having the magnification on mine at 12.5x perfectly matched the BDC.

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We shot through the day until everyone was fatigued. Even having good glass in your binos and scopes will make for a weary afternoon. The dogs throughout the day were mainly in the 100-300 yd range. The shooting was fantastic and the guide was excellent as he stayed with us all day and spotted and ranged for us. The benches he provided were excellent. However, after having a few hunts behind me, there is absolutely something to having a bench that can spin 360 degrees. If I did more of this type of hunting, I would seriously consider purchasing one.

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The weather on the prairie is unpredictable at best. In looking at the weather before leaving home, they were expecting highs of around 85-90 deg every day. We packed for warm weather wearing clothes that were lightweight but also protected from the sun. I had the foresight to pack a light rain jacket as the 3rd day of our hunt was almost a wash out with rain. We were able to get out around 2pm and hunt until 7pm. However, it was 65 degrees outside and windy. If going out, expect cold and hot.

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At the end of our 3-day hunt, we were tired and dreaded our 1,500 mile journey home. However, we made some new friends and we came away enriched in our thinking of what it takes to perform an on your own hunt. Having little time for vacation for us, the guide was the way to go. I realize many do not like this approach. However, I don't mind helping those that are attempting to accomplish their ranching dream and are trying to make ends meet. Now, back to work and reminisce.
 
Nice report. I have seen guiding fees from $150 to $350. Did yours fall in that range?

Yes it did. On the higher side of your range but worth it compared to the last hunt we were guided on. I have seen some guy's pricing at $470/day all inclusive. I refuse to pay that for prairie dogs (and stay in a motel at that).
 
Reads like you are eager to go back and do it again.

If so, what changes might you make in guiding or equipment?
 
Capt,
I'd go back tomorrow if work and family commitments would allow it and I had the financial means. It was 6 years in between going the first time and going last week. Therefore, who knows when I'll get to go back. If I could swing it and I was driving out, I'd prefer two weeks out there as opposed to one.

In terms of gears changes, one of the best investments that actually worked this trip was a Sig Kilo 2000 rangefinder. It actually gave me readings unlike the Leica 1200 I had used last time. Knowing range and DOPE is paramount in making first round hits. I did my homework before heading out and developed a great load for my .223 as well as chrono'ing it to know ballistics. Also, trying to setup with the wind in your face or back makes for easier wind calls. As for a bench, I read many on here making mentions of a bench that can swivel 360 degrees. That is where it's at if you really want the most range of motion without having to move a bench. The hottest day we encountered was around 85-87 deg. There was a good 15 mph wind which made it a non-issue for a hot barrel. I do however recommend taking two guns as a minimum. For me, I kept it simple and took two .223s.

As for guiding changes, I'd go with these folks again as I like them. Our first experience p-dog hunting was decent but I didn't know what to expect. After comparing the first guide (6 years ago) to the last guide (last week), our guide last week was heads and shoulders better. He hung with us all day, spotted for us all day and ranged dogs. Our last guide put us up in a motel, set us up in the field and would then take off hiking across the prairies after setting us up on a p-dog town. All in all, there's not a whole lot to p-dog hunting. Like everything else, proper planning will provide for a more enjoyable experience. If performing an on your own hunt, call the Ranger offices and become informed. They will send maps and make recommendations. They were extremely helpful in our own adventure to the Ft. Pierre National Grassland.
 
Glad you enjoyed your hunt and good to see Harley was feeling good enough to guide this year. Last year he wasn't doing well enough.
 
Funny but when my wife and I were hunting in Wyoming last year I got the same feeling about my 1600 Bushnell range finder. Still have it and it does work but playing with my new Sig Kilo 2000 shows it to be much easier to get readings when the reflective surface is not so vertical. Still not perfect but an improvement over something I thought was always pretty good.

Missed going this year. Another grandchild born last night and we passed on a month out there for a visit up north later this month because of that. I can go for a long time multiple times if I can find someone to take care of the property. Wife ... not so much so we skipped our hunt this year. Expect to be back out next early-June. Don't have the shooting expectations and time issues so we have never tried a guided hunt. Might be an option for a couple days. Mostly we hunt a little and ride motorcycle out there a lot each day.
 
Nice write-up, glad to see that you had a good hunt. I offer these suggestions based on many years of PD hunting.

You have a good rangefinder, which is one of the essentials of PD hunting. I have switched from a rangefinder to rangefinding binoculars, which means one less item to carry, and it helps in spotting and ranging. The other items you need are a wind meter, a ballistics program for your smart phone, and a rotating bench. I also recommend a rc radio antenna ( from Amazon) to place on the bench , with a 8" piece of light yarn as a wind direction indicator. It is particularly useful with a rotating bench, as you are changing direction relative to the wind. I have a magnet on the bottom of mine , and have inset a small piece of steel in my tabletop to locate it.

Having two rifles is necessary, as if one goes bad, you have not wasted a trip. Here are some links to websites for the antenna, wind meter and rotating bench. There are lots of ballistics programs available, I use and recommend both Bulletflight and Applied Ballistics.

Antenna: https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_...=i:aps,k:rc+radio+antenna&tag=accuratescom-20

Wind Meters: https://kestrelmeters.com/ I use the simple one with just wind and temperature, but if I ever replace it I will get one with barometric pressure and humidity to input into the ballistics program. My PD hunting partner uses the Kestrel with the built in Applied Ballistics program, but I find that one too complicated and too expensive.

Rotating bench: https://custommetalprod.com/shooting-targets/precision-varmint-shooting-bench
Disclaimer; It is manufactured by my son's metal shooting target company. I designed this bench after shooting from many other benches, and believe it is very well suited to pd hunting. At about 60 pounds, it breaks down into smaller pieces, which are easy to store in the vehicle, and sets up without tools. It is rigid, and rotates smoothly.

Good luck in getting back out hunting a little quicker after your latest hunt.
 
Good to see folks enjoying our sport. Range finder? Got one don't use it. Shooting bench.? Hood of the truck and a throw rug work. I go dawg blastin 3 times a week or more on the average.. Blasted a few hundred yesterday.. Ranges from 10 yards [22 pistol] to way out there..

Thought about making a shooting table that mounts in my reciever hitch. Maybe this winter as I have an idea for one...
 

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