HELP WITH MAUSER TYPE...

[DirtySteve]

Set trigger are great.. MY Voere Titan and my Voere 201 have them.. I sold the Titan..

 

[fyrewall]

looks like a commercial version of a 98 Mauser - no thumb slot or stripper clip slot. It appears to have a Timney safety. The reddish shade of the bolt shroud might indicate a nickel steel alloy - possibly from a surplus 98 part. The bolt handle sure looks like my FN Mausers.

This might help:

www.nramuseum.org/media/940944/proofmarks.pdf

Look at Belgium proof marks - I can find all of these including the inspectors stamp and year on my FYNE old FN Mauser, J.C. Higgins M50 rifles proofed by FN Mauser in Liege Belgium in the 1950's.

Look at the stamp on the bolt handle - if it matches the 3rd one up from the bottom of the list for Liege proof marks it is a FN.

You will need to take the rifle out of the stock for the inspectors marks. If not made in Liege by FN other proof marks might assist in making an ID.

I have fitted 4 Timney triggers to my FN Mausers. This is not common but sometimes the striker needs modification to make the safety work. Good advice from SBS.

Olde but good considering a 122 YO design - take it apart and wonder at all the safety features.

 

[Kurz]

looks like a commercial version of a 98 Mauser - no thumb slot or stripper clip slot.

This is a common misunderstanding.

Prior to the end of WWII, all Mauser M98 actions, including those made for commercial use, had the stripper clip slot or thumb slot as commonly referred to. There were a couple of exceptions but these were special run target actions only.

Belgium received much of the Mauser manufacturing machinery after the war as reparations. It was around 1947 that the manufacturing in Belgium undertook a new design which incorporated the solid side wall along with some other changes. This model was referred to as the 'Improved Model'. Jon Speed's book covers all of the history of the Mauser including the move to Belgium:

Mauser: Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles

The other settlement was made to France from which we derived the Brevex Magnum action albeit in limited quantities.

Personally, I would keep the double set triggers as Timney's are a certain step down from the traditional double set triggers.

As suggested, remove the barreled action from the stock to read the proof marks stamped there.

Enjoy!

 

[SPQR70AD]

Well sadly everyone wants a different trigger today! It is the trendy wallet lightener! Nothing says internet expert or gun rag neophyte like trigger talk, trigger graphs, trigger scales etc.....I have never had a rifle that I felt compelled to swap out the trigger on.

In this case it is a Mauser of some sort with a Buehler low scope safety on it, cheap scope, poorly mounted and a cheap stock so it might be a really good double set trigger or it could be a real turd. So all you really need to know is large ring or small ring, commercial or military and action length. Screw spacing and reciever diameter is the fastest way to figure it out.

https://www.brownells.com/aspx/learn/learndetail.aspx?lid=11029

LOL I feel the same way about triggers as you do. guys change triggers on a self defense pistol. imagine being shot at and worrying about your trigger

 

[fyrewall]

All the M98's intended for military use (not commercial) that I have seen have stripper clip slots and thumb cut thus my statement .. "looks like a commercial version of a M98 Mauser". We are looking at this rifle - no thumb slot or stripper clip slot. Nice to know & generally worthy to know, that FN once made M98's with thumb cuts & stripper clip slots but really not applicable for this particular rifle as the OP only wanted to know "decipher" what kind of Mauser he had.

Looking at the left side of the receiver ring on my Mausers I can see markings. More appear on the bottom of the receiver ring behind the recoil lug. The proof marks on my rifles match those of the ones in my attachment.

As for the double set trigger? Just because it is unique does not necessarily mean it is superior; it might have been made by the Speedy Fast Trigger Works. Should it prove to be junky a nice Timney trigger can be easily fitted to replace it.

Have a good gun smith check everything out.

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This is a common misunderstanding.

Prior to the end of WWII, all Mauser M98 actions, including those made for commercial use, had the stripper clip slot or thumb slot as commonly referred to. There were a couple of exceptions but these were special run target actions only.

Belgium received much of the Mauser manufacturing machinery after the war as reparations. It was around 1947 that the manufacturing in Belgium undertook a new design which incorporated the solid side wall along with some other changes. This model was referred to as the 'Improved Model'. Jon Speed's book covers all of the history of the Mauser including the move to Belgium:

Mauser: Original Oberndorf Sporting Rifles

The other settlement was made to France from which we derived the Brevex Magnum action albeit in limited quantities.

Personally, I would keep the double set triggers as Timney's are a certain step down from the traditional double set triggers.

As suggested, remove the barreled action from the stock to read the proof marks stamped there.

Enjoy!

 

[Kurz]

Well, twist it any way you want but the way you wrote it says different which is why I wrote what I did. Expertise is nice only when your wording is in agreement.

Have a nice day.