Help with inherited 6mm PPC equipment

[Mrbriggs]

I inherited a bunch of 6mm PPC equipment from a family friend that died suddenly from cancer. I went to visit him when he was first diagnosed with cancer, only a couple weeks before he passed away, and we talked about guns as we both shared an interest in them. I am familiar with firearms owning several rifles and pistols, having assembles from parts an AR15, and am in the middle of a custom build of a Ruger 10-22. He told me about this benchrifle that he had in 6mmPPC with a 36x scope and I said that it sounded very interesting. Well I got a call a couple weeks later that he had passed away and had left me some stuff.

Well this benchrest gun is not an AR15 or Ruger 10-22 and seems a little intimidating as I know no one else in my family or friends that is into this type of shooting.

I have done some research but I still am confused, so I hope that someone here can help point me in the right direction on what I have and how to start using it.

Attached is a snap shot of the collection.

Gun:
It appears to be a Stolle-Panda with Shilen barrel with bolt and ejection port on the right hand side, topped with a Leupold 36x scope.
I was also given another barrel this weekend that was found while cleaning out the house. It was in the PVC tube shown with "KRIEGER" written on the tube. The barrel itself has two Velcro pads on it. I am not sure why.

Reloading Stuff:
Hood's Custom Products - Standard Press
Harrell's Precision Powder Measurer
Half a plastic powder bottle listed as H322
RCBS Powder Trickler
LE Wilson 6mm PPC neck die with RCBS #32 seat
LE Wilson 6mm PPC (not sure what this item is)
Unmarked item similar to above in pill case with "65gr Rossing...." <Image attached>
Unmarked item that appears to screw into top of reloader in pill case marked "68gr Berger..."
Federal No. 205M small rifle bench rest primers
Berger 65gr bullets (small yellow box)
Berger 68gr bullets (small yellow box)
Euber ??gr bullets (small yellow box)
Rossing 65gr bullets (white bucket - half full)

Misc:
Bushnell 18-36x50mm spotting scope
2 bullets

What I do not have: Brass (It appears that a gentleman that got the 6mm Remington took the 6mmPPC loaded rounds and brass by mistake and I have not been able to get in touch with him)

As I have only 2 rounds I started to look into what I need to do to get some rounds. I read the article on AccurateShooter.com called "6mm PPC Cartridge Guide" and fire forming the cases has me perplexed. I have never reloaded any ammunition before either so I read the "ABC's of reloading" by Bill Chevalier but need some clarification on what all those dies listed above are for.

So if anyone is still reading this and is willing to give a new guy some direction I would appreciated it.

Travis

 

[Frankr]

wish i lived close to you and could help you out..would be too hard for me to tell you what you want to know, would be easyer to show you...you do need to find the neck dia should be stamped on the barrel's most BR rifles are tight necked..should say something like 6ppc .262NK.
do a search to see if any BR shooting clubs in your area.
I see in the pic's two bullet seater dies, a FL die and a neck die..the one die was set up for the rossing bullets(probably). once you get to doing it , it's easy..

 

[mr45man]

The barrel itself has two Velcro pads on it. I am not sure why.

They are for a heat shield to keep heat from the barrel from
rising up in front of the scope and making the target "wiggle"
Can be made out of a wide 2 to 3 inch window blind
John H.

 

[mr45man]

Use the search forum, type in 6ppc case forming. or what ever else you want to know about , you,l learn a lot.

Nothing to be intimidated about. Once you have read all about the ppc
you,ll be fine

If there is something you don't get IM me
John H.

 

[boltfluter]

Sorry to hear about your friend. If you get stuck, you can call me at 1-208-871-7429. Be happy to help.

Regards, Paul

www.boltfluting.com

 

[fdshuster]

Travis: What you have is a full blown benchrest match competition rifle, chambered in what is one of the most accurate cartridges being used, in the short-range distance match's.

Most of us are using Lapua 220 Russian brass to form the 6ppc case, but if you want to get started in loading for it, Norma makes ready made brass for the 6ppc. Depeneding on the chamber neck diameter, you may be required to outside neck turn the brass. That's one of the first things you must determine: the chamber neck diameter, sometimes marked on the barrel, left side, near the receiver.

The extra barrel marked "Krieger" is probably fitted for your receiver, and can be easily changed, the rifle being setup as a switch-barrel.

There is a chance the rifle could have been built by Kelbly, and if I were you, I would contact them ( 330-683-4674 Monday thru Thursday), give them the serial number stamped on the right side of the receiver & they may be able to help you. If they did the chambering, they could provide you with a lot of information.

I've been loading & competing with various ppc chamberings since 1998, don't have all the answers, but do know at least a little, so if I can be of any help, feel free to send a PM, & we could also use e-mail.

 

[rayporter]

i sent you a pm.
there is a match in mighigan this weekend at harrisons sportsmens club. someone there may know the rifle.

there is also the possibility the rifle was put together by d. scott.

 

[Mrbriggs]

First off I would like to say "Thank you" to everyone that has offered to help me out, or has answered some questions for me either on the forum or in pm. It is much appreciated.

mr45man:
I will perform the search that you suggested and definitely let you know if I have any questions.

fdshuster:
I was unable to locate anything on the barrel indicating a chamber neck diameter. The only thing stamped into the barrel that I can find is the manufacturer Shilen. I only looked on the visible portion of the barrel. Any chance it is on the barrel hidden by the stock?
I contacted Kelbly, per your suggestion, and they said that they did not build the gun. They only sold the action.

rayporter:
It is my boys Birthday party this Saturday but I did look at the Harrison Sportmans Club website and it looks like they have two Benchrest matches every month, so maybe I can talk one of my buddies to take the 3hr drive up there some weekend, unless I can find something closer.
I will also look into if the rifle was put together by D. Scott. My assumption is that it was put together by a mutual friend that was a gunsmith in my hometown, who has also passed away.

Everyone:
Without the chamber neck diameter stamped on the barrel is there anywhere else I could look, or a method to find out? I do have 2 rounds, can they be used to identify this?

Thank you again for everyone’s help,

Travis

 

[fdshuster]

Travis: You said you have 2 rounds. Did they come with the equipment? If so, then they were most likely loaded by the gentleman who owned the rifle.

If you measure the loaded neck diameter, using a micrometer, ( a dial caliper will work, just not as finely adjustable), the diameter should be approx. .002" smaller than chamber neck dia. If it measures .260" ( + or - .001"), then your chamber is most likely the most common .262".

You could take a magic marker & coat the neck & shoulder areas then try to chamber the round. If the bolt closes, then remove the round & look for any rub marks on the case neck. If none, then using all safety precautions, fire the round, measure the as fired neck dia., add .001" & that will be your actual chamber neck dia.

Your other option would be to do, or have done, a chamber cast. That would probably be the safest alternative.

Is the rifle a glue-in or is the receiver attached to the stock with two guard screws?

If you have a gunsmith who is familiar with benchrest rifles, in your area, he could also be a source of help.

ps: A PM incoming for possible personal contact in your area.

 

[STSClays]

So did you ever get this all sorted out?

 

[artbosco]

All the help with everything 6PPC and related, is covered from A to Z right here: http://www.brunoshooters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=BSS&Product_Code=TBSC

It's the comprehensive guide on the cartridge, rifle and equipment and competing it.

 

[Pulpit]

Thanks to all in this thread as I too am about to enter the world of 6PPC.

Pulpit

 

[GSPV]

Just wanted to add that buying prepared brass,from a brass service is a great alternative for a total new guy.

There are several good ones, but I recommend our own P1ZombieKiller. Great guy, great brass. Here is his profile here. PM him or email.

http://forum.accurateshooter.com/index.php?action=profile;u=951910

 

[jonbearman]

Did kelblys give you the year the reciever was built?