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HELP re-contouring a barrel

Buttoned barrels are typically treated after rifling and before contouring. The big issue occurs when a manufacturer tries to button rifle and tapered blank. Mike Walker told of button rifling some Springfield barrels which were already contoured. The bore ended up bigger at the muzzle.
When I started gunsmithing, we bought most of our barrels as 1 1/4 inch blanks (mostly from Shilen). I contoured these to various contours from Winchester featherweight to Heavy Varmint, and everything in between. Of the hundreds I turned, I recall one which distorted. Shilen replaced the barrel and paid for my labor.
Surprisingly enough, the barrels I encountered which warped the worst were a couple of cut-rifled barrels. Plainly, the material used was not properly relieved and I had to straighten the first one halfway through every cut. Frustrated, I put both barrels in the kitchen oven and turned it as high as it would go and cooked them for a couple hours. I don't know what the temp was, but it was enough to settle those barrels down enough that I could finish them.
I have milled Shilen barrels, full octagon, half octagon, and half octagon with a rib. They worked out fine. WH
Pretty much agreed with here.

Also the material should start out heat treated and stress relieved. Actually double stress relieved. Then after buttoning you/they should restress relieve the blank again.

Some places take short cuts and use a poorer grade of material. That just makes things worse.

On a button barrel you can not have it precontoured before doing the button rifling... the different wall thickness will play hell with the bore sizes.
 
Picture attached is a button barrel before and after. Maker I will exclude the name.

Look how much that steel gets deformed when the button goes thru. Now imagine how much the material moves.

The closer you contour, crown, flute and get towards the bore.... the more things can change on you. No way around it.

Take a look at the chicken scratch drawing... I had to do it fast as we did an inspection for a nitriding outfit... look at the before dimensions .... AR10 barrel. You can see how inconsistent the bore was after it was finished turned and in cases it changed after the treatment.

Poor steel? The different processes involved... I say a combination of all. Word I was told the maker either wasn't buying stress relieved material or was skipping the restress relieving. Good luck on getting something like this to shoot good.
 

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Does any one know/recommend someone who could help me? I have a stock that my spare barrel wont fit in and I cant hog it it out. The shoulder needs to be more like 1 inch in length instead of the 2 inch it is now. Plus I need a hair taken off the barrel diameter. It is 22in #3 contour. I can provide the barrel that fits the stock for measurements to duplicate the larger one down to size. I am using the barrel that fits so I could spin it off and send with the other one when that 'someone' is about ready to do the job.
Thanks!
I could possibly do this job for you. Give me a call and we can discuss.

Regards,
Forrest
605-342-8320
 

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