Help getting started in F class T/R
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any accurate 308 or fast twist 223 will work in F T/R a good quality scope 18-20 power or higher and a good bi pod and rear bag that is all you need many of us want more but that is all you need as far as matches in your area check with your state rifle assn. or the NRA they should be able to help main thing is get out there and have fun
Sean,
You are very lucky living in North Carolina, as you have an excellent range there, Camp Butner. Check out the website at www.northstateshootingclub.com By the way that is where the first F-class National Championship was held in 2004. They are very active there. Check out the schedule they already have posted for 2008.
Cheers :thumb:
You are very lucky living in North Carolina, as you have an excellent range there, Camp Butner. Check out the website at www.northstateshootingclub.com By the way that is where the first F-class National Championship was held in 2004. They are very active there. Check out the schedule they already have posted for 2008.
Cheers :thumb:
What I have done: If you want a super light trigger, then start with a Stevens 200 and rebarrel with a match barrel. Rifle Basix 2 trigger group. Stock in whatever style suits your build and style. I like the blockier BR styled stocks. You can have a winning rig for less then $1000.
My shoulder is toast so shooting a 308 is out. A 8 twist 223 will happily get 75 and 80gr Amax to 1000yds with similar ballistics. 1/2 the cost, 1/3 the recoil.
If you want a dirt cheap entry, then the Savage 12FV is it. Bed the action, open the barrel channel WAAAAY out, reinforce the forend with arrow shafts inside or plywood on the outside. You should have a 1/2 MOA capable rifle for around $600. Restocking in the future is easy or you can modify the orig stock to suit and save a bunch of coin.
For scopes, I use the ELite 4200 6x24 AO w/mil dots. Awesome optics and mechanicals. The new 30mm Side focus will help you go from 100yds to 1000yds without alot of shimming. Again, good bang for the buck. Burris rings w/inserts on Weaver bases.
Handload and practise, practise, practise.
Jerry
My shoulder is toast so shooting a 308 is out. A 8 twist 223 will happily get 75 and 80gr Amax to 1000yds with similar ballistics. 1/2 the cost, 1/3 the recoil.
If you want a dirt cheap entry, then the Savage 12FV is it. Bed the action, open the barrel channel WAAAAY out, reinforce the forend with arrow shafts inside or plywood on the outside. You should have a 1/2 MOA capable rifle for around $600. Restocking in the future is easy or you can modify the orig stock to suit and save a bunch of coin.
For scopes, I use the ELite 4200 6x24 AO w/mil dots. Awesome optics and mechanicals. The new 30mm Side focus will help you go from 100yds to 1000yds without alot of shimming. Again, good bang for the buck. Burris rings w/inserts on Weaver bases.
Handload and practise, practise, practise.
Jerry
Thanks for the replies!!
Right now I have a Rem. VSF in 308 with the bipod and a 4.5 x 14 VX-III. It will shoot on a good day
1/2" @ 100. I've never shot it off a good quality rest, just off the bipod. Most everyone says it would group better off the rest so I feel like the rifle would be competitive but I know my scope is lacking a bit for the longer distances. The rifle seems to like 168gr Berger VLD pretty well but I've only been reloading for a year. Also, I have had really good groups with FMJ 155gr and 173gr. I see most of the competition bullets are BTHP. Does anyone shoot FMJs in competition?
Right now I have a Rem. VSF in 308 with the bipod and a 4.5 x 14 VX-III. It will shoot on a good day
1/2" @ 100. I've never shot it off a good quality rest, just off the bipod. Most everyone says it would group better off the rest so I feel like the rifle would be competitive but I know my scope is lacking a bit for the longer distances. The rifle seems to like 168gr Berger VLD pretty well but I've only been reloading for a year. Also, I have had really good groups with FMJ 155gr and 173gr. I see most of the competition bullets are BTHP. Does anyone shoot FMJs in competition?sean51. First forget using the 168 grain bullets and shoot 175 grain Sierra MatchKings,they work at all ranges including 1000 yards). Second you will need a 20 MOA scope base to be able to shoot out to 1000 yards. Third, go for it and have fun. You will see a lot of custom guns, but shoot yours and learn the wind.
One last other LARGE suggestion, do not chase the target spotter - earn to read the wind and adjust for it.
One last other LARGE suggestion, do not chase the target spotter - earn to read the wind and adjust for it.
Great information and thanks for the web link. Being in NC myself, think I may take a serious look into this myself. Until I read this, I didn't know all this was happening.
When you say good bypod, would you make a recommendation - and they come in different heights ranges, what height do most use? I just shoot off bags from a bench right now.
Thanks again for the info - got to check this out.
When you say good bypod, would you make a recommendation - and they come in different heights ranges, what height do most use? I just shoot off bags from a bench right now.
Thanks again for the info - got to check this out.
memilanuk
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The more or less standard is the Harris 6-9" swivel w/ notched legs... think it's the 'BRMS' model or something like that. Add a Pod-Loc,makes locking down the swivel where you want it... like where your level is centered... far easier than by hand), and something for the feet to set on,flexible cutting board from the grocery store) or some add-on feet like the PodPaws, to keep it from sinking in on soft firing lines... and you should be good to go.
There may be better ones out there, but the Harris works and is light... two points in its favor.
There may be better ones out there, but the Harris works and is light... two points in its favor.
Forum Boss
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MidwayUSA has Harris bipods on sale right now.
My two recommended models are the BR swivel with notches,6-9") and the Medium swivel with notches,9-13"). You should try both to see what works best for you in prone position. Fitted with pod paws, the 9-13" might be too tall unless you have a very tall rear bag.
Photos of these items are in the Bulletin:
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/harris-swivel-bipods-on-sale-again-at-midwayusa/
My two recommended models are the BR swivel with notches,6-9") and the Medium swivel with notches,9-13"). You should try both to see what works best for you in prone position. Fitted with pod paws, the 9-13" might be too tall unless you have a very tall rear bag.
Photos of these items are in the Bulletin:
http://accurateshooter.wordpress.com/2007/10/28/harris-swivel-bipods-on-sale-again-at-midwayusa/
Thanks again -- been doing some reading and checking this all out. Appreciate the help. Ordered a Harris,6-9") bi-pod and the Pod-Paws. That's a funny name -- Pod-Paws.... bet you can't say it 5 times real fast...
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