Hello. I'm new to Accurate Shooter, and am getting into BR Competition.

[G Liles]

I have yet in 30yrs have met any competitor that could read flags.

Huh?? I don’t understand?? If they can’t read them, why use them??

 

[quest450]

WIB3 just ruffled some SR feathers

 

[BoydAllen]

Huh?? I don’t understand?? If they can’t read them, why use them??

Flags are very useful. No one makes competitors use them. They do so because they can not shoot as small without them. My advice to a new shooters is to study the guys that are winning and do exactly as they do. Another thing, top shooters invariably do their own testing.

 

[chris davis]

My 2 cents, try to learn something every time you shoot, don’t get caught up in winning or losing , try to meet someone new each time out and most of all Have Fun!! Welcome!!!

 

[WIB3]

When the command is given to commence fire, 99% of the competitors are trying to get 10 shots down range before conditions change. I am referring to 1000yd Benchrest to clarify the argument.

 

[WIB3]

Short range BR is a whole different game.

 

[WIB3]

Clarification on what discipline should be stated. I have never seen a PPC or 30BR on the line at 1000yds.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

My advice would be to get advice from a consistently good competitor. He doesnt have to be a Nats winner or record breaker (that helps) but he does have to be a guy always in the hunt. Theres far more bad info online than good that Id almost ignore anything on youtube. You will end up spending a lot of money on stuff you dont need. You only need basic loading equipment to shoot the smallest groups on the planet and as you can afford nicer things you can do so. You will need a good scale. That you cant avoid, but everything else is basic. Dies have to work, If a $30 Lee sizes correctly thats all you need. The better dies just up your odds of getting a good one. You need a well built rifle. Theres plenty of guys that can do this. But plenty that do not I hate to say. You want to look at consistency here. The nice thing about LR BR is that is so well hashed out that you dont have to reinvent the wheel. The program is there. Most all of the top competitors are doing the same thing. It comes down to the work you put in.

 

[WIB3]

My advice would be to get advice from a consistently good competitor. He doesnt have to be a Nats winner or record breaker (that helps) but he does have to be a guy always in the hunt. Theres far more bad info online than good that Id almost ignore anything on youtube. You will end up spending a lot of money on stuff you dont need. You only need basic loading equipment to shoot the smallest groups on the planet and as you can afford nicer things you can do so. You will need a good scale. That you cant avoid, but everything else is basic. Dies have to work, If a $30 Lee sizes correctly thats all you need. The better dies just up your odds of getting a good one. You need a well built rifle. Theres plenty of guys that can do this. But plenty that do not I hate to say. You want to look at consistency here. The nice thing about LR BR is that is so well hashed out that you dont have to reinvent the wheel. The program is there. Most all of the top competitors are doing the same thing. It comes down to the work you put in.

Well said Alex.

 

[Brew2]

For 1000yd BR, find a good gun smith. There a many out there. I have yet in 30yrs have met any competitor that could read flags. Good barrels and good bullets will help you tremendously. There are a few custom bullet makers out there who turn out fantastic products. Don’t expect overnight delivery though. There is a good year waiting period. 103 to 105 seems to be the ticket. Personally I prefer Kreiger barrels, they have historically been very good to me but others are very competitive. The game is won on the reloading bench but Mother Nature has the final word. Have fun and enjoy.

Yes. Thanks. Krieger was my first choice but my source was out. I was just a bit to late. I took a Bartlein.

 

[Brew2]

Unfortunately, I do not know who Alex Wheeler is. I will probably be sorry I said that. Would love to talk to experience. How do I reach him?

 

[C.E.Smith043]

That wind flags are as important or maybe more so, than any other piece of equipment you can buy to improve your shooting. There is virtually no such thing as a no wind condition. Even if there was, I prefer a light, honest wind. Equipment and tune are important, but only if they shoot within the conditions. The only way to know the condition...is flags. So don't waste time, money and components even trying to tune without flags. In summary...every single shot you fire without flags is a total waste.

This ^^^^ 100%

 

[Brew2]

If you have any questions about shooting rest, let me know I might be able to help.

Mark Johnson
MA Machine & Bench

Ive been meaning to write. Do you manufacture front rests? Would be interested in looking. Brew2

 

[jackieschmidt]

Then how do you know which 10 seconds to send them in? I'm positive flags help at all ranges. I hear it all the time from long range shooters who have gone to using flags. Not only that, but for tuning, too. And look at Bart! He does ok with flags. Lol!

I did not mean to not use flags at 600. I meant that if you see the flags in an opportune position, get the shots down range as fast as possible.

The bottom line is, at 100 and 200, and maybe 300, you can hunt and pick a condition, because a good flag reader can be extremely precision in his abilities.

If you try to hunt and pick conditions at 600+, you will probably end up with groups that are not very competitive.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Thanks. Will be shooting @ 600+. I went with NF 15-55 x 52 w. the BBR-2 reticle.

What reticle is that?

 

[G Liles]

What reticle is that?

I think he ment the DDR-2 reticle.

 

[Brew2]

What reticle is that?

Small center dot with half moa spaces next to that then half moa dashes. Very uncluttered.

 

[Brew2]

I think he ment the DDR-2 reticle.

Exactly. Thanks

 

[jackieschmidt]

I like a plain fine cross hair for any kind of Benchrest Shooting.

 

[G Liles]

That’s what I like about the DDR-2 reticle, you have a choice either a dot or a fine cross hair