Hand gun for wife??
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My Wife shoots .38's in her 3 1/4" SP101. She has smooth Badger(?) hand formed grips on it and actually lets me know it's time for her to go to the range for trigger time.
I have a question for the experts, she consistently hits in the groin area of a silhouette target. Do you suppose she is flinching or is she making a statement?
Thanks,
Nervous in PA
I have a question for the experts, she consistently hits in the groin area of a silhouette target. Do you suppose she is flinching or is she making a statement?
Thanks,
Nervous in PA
A couple of things to remember while opinions are being expressed here: no matter how much training some people are given, they reach a limit with regard to what they can/will handle in the way of size and/or effort required to operate and/or recoil, and whether that limit is imposed by physical limitations or is psychological in origin doesn't matter - the limit is real, and they won't progress beyond that. And a firearm that the user is not comfortable with won't be carried all the time it is legal to do so, and I don't care if its a .22RF or a .50 AE or something in between, the firearm on your person is a whole lot more effective in the field than the one left at home in the gun safe. I would much rather see someone carrying a .38 special snubby with which they are comepetent and confident than leaving a more powerful semi auto (or revolver for that matter) with which they have issues at home. I had several students of small stature and/or limited physical capabilities that never thought they could get beyond a .22RF, but came to love a 5 shot .38 snubby; I never worried about how they got there, I was just happy they got beyond a .22. I would not want to confront any of these individuals if they felt they had reason to point it at me.....
Or, in summary, the best firearm for self defense is the one you have with you.
Or, in summary, the best firearm for self defense is the one you have with you.
Mr. Majestic, she is subconsciously anticipating the recoil and actually PULLING the trigger down and back rather than straight back. It is a very common mistake.. If you try this, you will see it... Take the bullet out that will rotate to the firing position and do not tell her. Watch as she will dip the barrel enough to visually see as she "fires" the empty chamber. It is very revealing.. I did it myself and did not know why... I had one of our firearms training instructors do exactly that and it showed me what I was doing wrong.. Now I was not AFRAID of the recoil>>just anticipating it's arrival!
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What Shootdots said. In handgun shooting, recoil anticipation can take a number of forms; another one that will cause shots to break low is breaking the wrist down, pushing forward or drooping the head. And most recoil anticipation mechanisms, other than a flinch, are not the result of fear of recoil, just trying to do something about it the realm of trying to control the firearm. Whe shooting a 1911 years ago, I had a tendency to string from center target up and to the right in the one o'clock - two o'clock region. That's a classic pattern that results from "heeling", pushing on the bottom of the butt with the heel of the hand as the shot breaks, rather than just riding with the recoil. Once a Gunny looked at my target and explained what I was doing it was an easy habit to break, and having someone else load the firearm for a Ball and Dummy drill makes it easy to spot heeling. lobster clawing, flinching, thumbing, etc.
The .pdf below, from the Lee reloading equipment people, lays out the things the Gunny taught me.
What Shootdots said. In handgun shooting, recoil anticipation can take a number of forms; another one that will cause shots to break low is breaking the wrist down, pushing forward or drooping the head. And most recoil anticipation mechanisms, other than a flinch, are not the result of fear of recoil, just trying to do something about it the realm of trying to control the firearm. Whe shooting a 1911 years ago, I had a tendency to string from center target up and to the right in the one o'clock - two o'clock region. That's a classic pattern that results from "heeling", pushing on the bottom of the butt with the heel of the hand as the shot breaks, rather than just riding with the recoil. Once a Gunny looked at my target and explained what I was doing it was an easy habit to break, and having someone else load the firearm for a Ball and Dummy drill makes it easy to spot heeling. lobster clawing, flinching, thumbing, etc.
The .pdf below, from the Lee reloading equipment people, lays out the things the Gunny taught me.
MrMajestic said:My Wife shoots .38's in her 3 1/4" SP101. She has smooth Badger(?) hand formed grips on it and actually lets me know it's time for her to go to the range for trigger time.
I have a question for the experts, she consistently hits in the groin area of a silhouette target. Do you suppose she is flinching or is she making a statement?
Thanks,
Nervous in PA
My mom will put 4 shots in center mass and one some how goes low.
I think it's a genetic thing in women.
Started my wife shooting a .22 Ruger target pistol, then moved her up to a KelTec P-32. After a year with the P-32, she now carries a KelTec PF9 9mm. She did not like shooting a compact revolver in .38 special and shoots the compact auto better. Kahr, Walther, etc. all make nice compact autos that fit smaller hands well. It is amazing how these look large in a woman's hands. The .32 is a bit underpowered, but a good start and any gun may make an assailant think twice. Eventually move up to a .380 (not much better than a .32) or a 9mm (much better).
I remember an article by Masaad Ayoob and he laid out the stats on shootings with different cartridge's and the old standby did pretty well with a stop the fight percentage of 88% and the .357 did even better at 93% and the 9mm was about the same at 88% with one round fired by police officers in the fight for their life.The 45acp was king at or around 97% of one shot bringing down a human in combat.There are always flaws as if the guy was hopped up or whatever.Truth be known the best home defense gun is a shotgun period with some type of buckshot then slug then buckshot type loading.This is a pump gun as auto's can jam.
I would be afraid of who my wife might choose to shoot!!! Haha
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