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Hakko/Japan Optics Limited

StraightPipes, if you are going to peddle your products on this or any other site, or seek information, the least you can do is open your wallet and contribute to help keep this site up and running.
I try to form my opinions based on fact. It happens to be a fact the HAKKO scopes are made in CHINA and assembled in JAPAN. It is also a fact that LIGHT OPTICAL (hence the name LIGHTFORCE) was the original maker of NIGHTFORCE scopes, not HAKKO. As for my shooting skills, come on over here to Camp Pendleton. Let's see what you've got at unknown distances. You have displayed your ability to read my profile, know I live in Ca, and can clearly see nothing is hidden. What I do for a living is right there. I don't bash our sport, have not bashed MARCH, but rather said I believe S&B optics are better, have many items made in JAPAN, and support this site with donations. Sooooo... until you and ARK start supporting this site with a bit of money, can (using your words) prove the HAKKO products are made in JAPAN and not merely assembled there, keep it to yourself. I choose to form my own opinion and to limit my purchases to as few CHINESE made products as possible.
 
I do not peddle the Japan Optics Limited product. ARK Is the "peddler" in your words. Do a better job researching before you make claims on a products origin. The fact that people like you "finance" your right to run your mouth is the very reason our sport will no doubt decline in participation or interest. You feel that paying, as in spending your money, permits you to slander freely. ARK just may be a site sponsor in the near future, that is their decision. As far as myself spending money here, I just may do that. In fact, I will spend dollar for dollar on this site just to entertain myself with your slander. I also can deduce where people reside and I also find it quite an easy task to learn of a mans character by how he talks of himself publicly.

My apologies to the forum and moderators for challenging this foolishness. JRS, you will have the last word "again". You will not get your intended rise out of me "SIR"

slander.
 
JRS said:
Does anyone else smell a couple of salesman ;D
Is it merely a coincidence that StraightPipes and Dgd6mm live in Florida and this distributor just happens to be based in Florida :o ::)

Wow no offense, but that was a serious stretch calling out people because of where they live in relationship to a product and the fact that they posted good impressions from first hand usage of a product.

All that I have seen so far is a couple of guys that seemed to be genuinely impressed by a new product. The market place will determine if the new Hakko scopes are worthy of consideration. I think that your attitude is a bit one sided and slanderous IMO. Your impressions reek of conspiracy theory without any basis other than a paranoid mind.

Let's allow the public to determine what is good or bad, and refrain from publicly bashing a new product before it has an opportunity to prove or disprove their merit to the public. One way or the other, this will shake out in due time on its own. Backhanded allegations aimed at other members is not a good way to win arguments or influence others to your way of thinking in my book either. Without proof of your opinion, you make yourself sound like someone that is fearful of this new product and its impact on the buying public vs something that you yourself might promote for monetary gains. Why would you bash a product that you know zero about without first hand knowledge to support your claims?
 
McKinneyMike said:
JRS said:
Does anyone else smell a couple of salesman ;D
Is it merely a coincidence that StraightPipes and Dgd6mm live in Florida and this distributor just happens to be based in Florida :o ::)

Wow no offense, but that was a serious stretch calling out people because of where they live in relationship to a product and the fact that they posted good impressions from first hand usage of a product.

All that I have seen so far is a couple of guys that seemed to be genuinely impressed by a new product. The market place will determine if the new Hakko scopes are worthy of consideration. I think that your attitude is a bit one sided and slanderous IMO. Your impressions reek of conspiracy theory without any basis other than a paranoid mind.

Let's allow the public to determine what is good or bad, and refrain from publicly bashing a new product before it has an opportunity to prove or disprove their merit to the public. One way or the other, this will shake out in due time on its own. Backhanded allegations aimed at other members is not a good way to win arguments or influence others to your way of thinking in my book either. Without proof of your opinion, you make yourself sound like someone that is fearful of this new product and its impact on the buying public vs something that you yourself might promote for monetary gains. Why would you bash a product that you know zero about without first hand knowledge to support your claims?

Well said MM
 
You obviously know nothing of which you speak Mike. HAKKO is not a new company with a new product. They have been around for many years putting any name on a scope that one is willing to pay for. You guys are hilarious.
 
Never said Hakko was a new company now did I. They have not had any distribution in the USA in sometime though, for scopes with their name on them. These scopes are new also, and ARC is now their US distributor. Regardless your attitude is less than amicable or professional, that is not subject to debate.
 
Wouldn't you think this would have ended long ago with a simple physical address for this ARK Group that was visited by StraightPipes??? You questioned this yourself Mike! I have sent email on 3 different occasions without a response.
 
Received this reply off of Gunbroker by asking a question about the amount of MOA travel for the various models of scopes available:

"Thanks for your inquiry. I counted 90MOA of elevation and 45MOA left and 45MOA right on the 4-16X50mm.
Both the 10-50X56mm and the 8-34X56mm have 50MOA elevation and 20MOA left and 20 MOA right"
 

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