H-4198

[Larry Koch]

I thought I would share a response from Hodgdon, on H-4198. So if you have H-4198 hang on until its gone.

I am sorry but this particular burn speed is not currently in production. Increased military demand for materials worldwide is affecting production of certain products including this one.



Luke Otte
Customer Service Manager

Hodgdon Powder Co.
6430 vista dr.
Shawnee, Ks 66218

 

[nakneker]

That’s dumb. I get it but it‘s still dumb. I have a little over 16 pounds left, hopefully something changes in the meantime.

 

[LHSmith]

Perhaps it's used in the cluster bombs.

 

[Charlie-NY]

Perhaps it's used in the cluster bombs.

That's old stock that Biden is trying to get rid of. LOL

 

[jvshiver]

Anyone here trying the shooters world socom in lieu of h4198? Recently spoke with a guy that said he is loading gr-gr what he was loading in his 30br with it.

 

[Shooter13]

That's old stock that Biden is trying to get rid of. LOL

He has no clue of what the military is trying to get rid of! He is taking their "suggestion"

 

[JSH]

I wasn’t going to comment, but……..I see a lot of folks losing favor with Hodgdon. If I burned the powder I did 30 years ago, I would have already moved on.
I now have 2lbs of H4198, I will only use it compare against other powders now.
I believe one may see differences with bore sizes when comparing against others

 

[Larry Koch]

I wasn’t going to comment, but……..I see a lot of folks losing favor with Hodgdon. If I burned the powder I did 30 years ago, I would have already moved on.
I now have 2lbs of H4198, I will only use it compare against other powders now.
I believe one may see differences with bore sizes when comparing against others

I'm with you on your assignment on Hodgdon powder.

 

[Bat Rastard]

What are y'all using as H4198 alternatives?

 

[Rodney]

I’m testing with N-130.

 

[Bill Norris]

VV-N130 VV-N133 LT-30

 

[JSH]

What are y'all using as H4198 alternatives?

For the cartridges and bore size that I use H4198, IMR4198 is as close to a load to load alternative I have found.
The IMR longer sticks are a pita, accuracy is acceptable but not as good as the H.

Case fill and accuracy is what I was after with numerous cartridges.

I keep seeing folks mention a powder as a replacement, no, they just worked up a different load completely and the powder does not have the “window” of use I am looking for.

 

[Shooter13]

What are y'all using as H4198 alternatives?

N130 & N140

 

[Kevin1990]

We've been at war with one country or another since I was born. There have been conflicts from one side of the world to to the other. Curious how what's going on now, is any different?

 

[LHSmith]

Gives the "One Big World Order" clan an excuse to keep you from ammo so armed resistance would be minimized.

 

[SecondsCount]

My guess is that some of these big powder companies have been receiving much larger contracts than what Hodgdon can even think of asking for.

Why would they provide 1000 pounds a year to Hodgdon when they get contracts for 10X that amount.

 

[jackieschmidt]

Norma 201 shoots pretty decent in my 30 BR.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Norma 201 shoots pretty decent in my 30 BR.

I had better luck with Norma 200. It's a possible option as it's in the same range as h4198 for burn rate. Actually, I like it pretty well, fwiw.

 

[Larry Koch]

I had better luck with Norma 200. It's a possible option as it's in the same range as h4198 for burn rate. Actually, I like it pretty well, fwiw.

After a quick web search, Norma powder has been discontinued.

 

[Murray Brook]

All the powders are on the Norma site

Gunpowder

www.norma-ammunition.com