H 414 for year-round use?

[muleystalker]

Just work up a warm weather load and figure out what it does in colder weather or work up a cold weather load also. I have at least 3 8lbers of that powder also. I got a great price on it and couldn't pass it up.

 

[Jrjones]

Its been a long time favorite for me in 243 w lighter bullets. Find my max loads in the heat of summer. Never had a problem. I only have 1 lb left. do they even make it anymore? Now i use w760/A2700.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

It’s always worked well in the past for me in the 22-250 & Swifts that I’ve used it in. Good velocity and accuracy. The only trouble that I’ve had a couple of times is when using “maximum” loads that were worked up in temperatures at 70 or below and then when using them in 90 or above, pressures can get too high. This can be said for many powders though and your loads should be worked up in the highest temperatures that you are likely to encounter. YMMV

This^^^^ 22-250 and 55gr. Sierra BK load did amazing at home. Got out to Western Oklahoma for prairie dogs and that load was too hot and locked the bolt up after one firing.

 

[Tommie]

While advice to work up a load in hot weather is legitimate it doesn’t take into account chamber heat. Regardless if ambient temps a round gets scorching hot if it spends much time in a roasty chamber. Guns get really hot in the poodle fields. Just food for thought.

 

[TRSR8]

While not in my 20’s, I’ve had fair experience with both 414 & 380 mostly in 22-250’s and simply found them too “spikey” on pressures related to temps, fine if your using them , as tested, in a narrow temp range, I guess, somewhat cartridge related.
worst of any chambering I ever owned relative to powder/ temp spikes was the 17 MK IV, but i simply do not trust 414 year round, especially around here in the NE if you’re pushing the envelope in the least.

 

[CJ6]

Its been a long time favorite for me in 243 w lighter bullets. Find my max loads in the heat of summer. Never had a problem. I only have 1 lb left. do they even make it anymore? Now i use w760/A2700.

414 has been discontinued.

 

[Idaho-Lefty]

414 has been discontinued.

I will try to Find, the Right "Burn Rate" / accuracy load, in a VhitaVouri, temp-insensitve Powder for, my 7 x 30 Waters, when I run out of, H-414 ( Vhit Powder is, Cheaper than most other Powders here, in Idaho, anyway ! ).
Fortunately there's NO hurry, as the 7 x 30 W. is a single shot and NOT, a semi auto !
N-140 ( I'm thinking ) or N-150 with, the 120 gr. NBT's ??

 

[muleystalker]

While advice to work up a load in hot weather is legitimate it doesn’t take into account chamber heat. Regardless if ambient temps a round gets scorching hot if it spends much time in a roasty chamber. Guns get really hot in the poodle fields. Just food for thought.

Thats part of developing a load in the warmer weather and for your intended use. And yes you are right... cooking a round in a hot chamber is real, we run into it shooting F-Class in the heat also, I don't chamber the round until I'm ready to shoot, even with more temp stable powder.

 

[JLT]

I will try to Find, the Right "Burn Rate" / accuracy load, in a VhitaVouri, temp-insensitve Powder for, my 7 x 30 Waters, when I run out of, H-414 ( Vhit Powder is, Cheaper than most other Powders here, in Idaho, anyway ! ).
Fortunately there's NO hurry, as the 7 x 30 W. is a single shot and NOT, a semi auto !
N-140 ( I'm thinking ) or N-150 with, the 120 gr. NBT's ??

W-760 is the exact same powder. Same stuff, different label.

N-150 would be closer, v. N-140.

 

[41rem]

I think I would just spring for a pound of Varget for hunting loads and have a year round load.

Yeah, Im starting to lean that direction.

I'll leave the H414 for a different project & focus on Reloader 16 as I move forward on a standard year round load for this rifle, thinking it's a better all around choice & I have 7 pounds of that one.

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