Goodyear Australia sacks employee for being a Sporting Shooter1

[JRS]

I'm buying Michelin. Top rated by consumer reports. By the way. When did tires go up to $200 + each?? I musta been sleeping!

$200.00 each is nothing. You would have a heart attack if you had to pay for the tires on my car

 

[CJ6]

By the way. When did tires go up to $200 + each?? I musta been sleeping!

$200 ???...I paid $335 ea. for the Suburban, I thought that was a fair deal

 

[Martin52]

Key points from the article below include:

a) no police charges were laid because David had done nothing wrong
b) notwithstanding the above point, Goodyear sacked David
c) Goodyear then refused to negotiate following a complaint to the Fair Work Commission, so David is now proceeding with arbitration.

For those who don't know, the Fair Work Commission is Australia's national workplace relations tribunal and its services include in relation to employment related dispute resolution.

Goodyear - is this a one finger salute to an employee's reasonable request for mediation in the pre-arbitration Conciliation stage, forcing him to go to arbitration ?

http://www.ssaavic.com.au/index.php/9-uncategorised/316-goodyear-fires-shooting-champ

 

[Macropod]

Part of the problem stems from our former prime minister John Winston Howard's comments about people in the shooting sports fraternity should not have firearms. This was in '96 after the Port Arthur psy-op. He also stated that only the police and the military should have access to firearms. This amongst other utterings was why he was known as Little Johnny Jackboot. A controlled media also helped his cause in vilifying all legitimate shooting sports participants.

Things are slowly improving but the brainwashed among us still regard anyone with an interest in shooting sports as either a psychopath or about to become one. The Goodyear HR people obviously regard shooting sportspeople the same way. This will prove a costly mistake for Goodyear. Word is getting around in the shooting community and that is a substantial potential market segment.

 

[Martin52]

Here's a link to the text...

http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/search/display/display.w3p;db%3DCHAMBER;id%3Dchamber%2Fhansards%2F56bab1ba-df39-47db-b4be-430bfbaaa524%2F0205;query%3DId%3A%22chamber%2Fhansards%2F56bab1ba-df39-47db-b4be-430bfbaaa524%2F0204%22

 

[noload]

I would suggest a Goodyear spokesman gets on the World News Tube quick to stop the bleading.

 

[Mega]

I'd say that since it's now made the news world wide, mentioned in Parliment and subject to legal dispute that Goodyear will have tight lips and have been advised to keep quiet.

Let's hope it doesn't get swept under the carpet.

 

[Berger.Fan222]

Buying new tires tomorrow. They won't be Goodyear.

 

[TRG300WM]

We got 3 cars and i hope the bad years are coming for them. Here's another guy that's boycotting this brand.

 

[JRS]

What Goodyear does in Australia is no different than the things thousands of American corporations do in Australia.The action certainly seems severe, but, it's Australia. The property owner has the right to say what is allowed there, and corporations have policies against guns or carrying them on the property, along with an obligation to provide a safe working environment for their employees.

Edit: Out of curiosity, I reviewed the NRA boycott list. Goodyear is one of the companies that has been on that list for many years, yet they remain in business to this day. Maybe we should refuse to purchase a vehicle from every manufacturer using Goodyear tires on their vehicles : While we're at it, we should also boycott the NHRA and NASCAR. After all, most of the vehicles wear the tires made by the longest standing sponsor in racing history….. Goodyear! If one does not want to comply with company policy, move on and work elsewhere. Someone else will be happy to take that job.

 

[XTR]

What Goodyear does in Australia is no different than the things thousands of American corporations do in Australia.The action certainly seems severe, but, it's Australia. The property owner has the right to say what is allowed there, and corporations have policies against guns or carrying them on the property, along with an obligation to provide a safe working environment for their employees.

Just like freedom of speech, they as a company may be entitled to take an action, as are the consumers when they become aware of what has happened, so while they may well be entitled (I think that will be decided in court) they must be prepared for the reaction.

No Goodyears for me please

 

[Macropod]

The actual property owner (not Goodyear) had no issue and David Waters had not committed any offense nor could he have been a threat to anyone.

 

[snert]

What Goodyear does in Australia is no different than the things thousands of American corporations do in Australia.The action certainly seems severe, but, it's Australia. The property owner has the right to say what is allowed there, and corporations have policies against guns or carrying them on the property, along with an obligation to provide a safe working environment for their employees.

Edit: Out of curiosity, I reviewed the NRA boycott list. Goodyear is one of the companies that has been on that list for many years, yet they remain in business to this day. Maybe we should refuse to purchase a vehicle from every manufacturer using Goodyear tires on their vehicles : While we're at it, we should also boycott the NHRA and NASCAR. After all, most of the vehicles wear the tires made by the longest standing sponsor in racing history….. Goodyear! If one does not want to comply with company policy, move on and work elsewhere. Someone else will be happy to take that job.

Sometimes stating a fact is helpful. Sometimes stating a fact without stating the full reality is stating less than a fact.

A more complete summary, sir, would have included the reality that many corporations do respond to public pressure for "moral" behavior (that a corp can be moral is another discussion). Take for example New Belgium Brewing. This company has responded to pressure from "Green beans" to be more environmentally friendly. (again, a different opportunity for a different discussion I am almost certain will start unnecessarily here...). The oil and gas industry has responded to public pressure, even political pressure, to modify behavior and allegedly, values. While it is true that Goodyear has the right to make policy and establish rules (what good conservative would deny that?) it is also true that they may respond to public pressure. Last I looked, the millions of members of the NRA, NASCAR fans, tire users, consumers, members of the local gun club, highly trained business people who drive really fancy cars and even internet keyboard shooters are part of the public. When large groups of people engage in civil response to concerns they have, they do have a hearing. Profit demands it.

So whether you agree or disagree that the modern public stoning we call twitter and email is the proper way to register complaints, it is still legitimate to notify a company that you will not use their product because they stand against your values. Even if it means you have to buy someones elses really costly tires for your grocery-getter or your really nice hotrod.

 

[JRS]

I agree 100%, snert. Public pressure goes a long way to force corporations into making decisions. Unfortunately, many choose to pack up and move to another location. I wish David Waters the best of luck.