Good bed job vs poor bedding

[tjtjwdad]

Anyone here tried Marine Tex?

 

[bobcat93]

I followed Mr. Richard Franklins stress free pillar bedding dvd . I dont know if it ever made a differents in my hunting rifles but it gave me good practice. I would suggest purchasing one of his DVD and watch his method. He uses kiwi shoe polish and devcon. If I remembered correctly he would skim over the pillars so you could barely see ware they make contact with the action. But they did make contact..he said he has used this method for years and never had a problem. I wish I could of had him build me a rifle before entering retirement. I did call him because I had questions. He was very patient and kind enough to answer all my dumb question. THANK YOU MR. FRANKLIN! Hope retirement is treating you well.
Anyways that is the method I use and will continue to use till I learn a better way..if there is one.
This sounds like a sales pitch but the DVD is inexpensive and he shows How to pillar bed with a mill and by hand with a dremal tool..its worth the money I think

 

[Valar]

I bedded my rem 700 bdl this winter. I used KIwi neutral shoe polish and bedde with JBweld. I am just waiting for weather to shoot it. I have to say it was a very tight bedding job and curious to see how it holds up. I have had experience with devcon in the past and dont see allot of difference in the products myself? I am no expert!

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Anyone here tried Marine Tex?

Yep, I prefer it to Devcon. Its a little thinner so it flows better, and has a longer working time. Be sure to get the grey not white.

 

[VaniB]

I tried JB Weld once and found it to be as other folks have reported; it's too loose and runny to work with. Yes it can be utilized for a bedding job, but to me it is clearly not the best alternative. I think the real reason for folks using JB Weld is that it can be bought locally at many retailers like Home Depot or Auto Zone, and it's cheap with no shipping charges to pay either. I'd rather put Devcon on my $2,000 target rifle then use JB to save $20 . To each his own.

 

[josh.rizzo]

I used Acraglas and it works great. My stock will hold my action in upside down without action screws. I think the big advantage of Acraglas over Devcon or JBWeld is that many gun cleaning chemicals will erode the last two, while Acraglas is made to resist them. I tried the MidwayUSA Bedrock kit and I can't say as many good things about that...it was brittle and flaked off.

 

[tjtjwdad]

Anyone here tried Marine Tex?

Yep, I prefer it to Devcon. Its a little thinner so it flows better, and has a longer working time. Be sure to get the grey not white.

Thanks, it's worked pretty good for me thus far. As far as Devcon, JB-Weld or Accuglass, never tried them. I'll have to give Kiwi Shoe Polish a try as a release agent.

Thanks again

 

[Jay Christopherson]

I'm not say that acraglass is the best I'm saying that I've along with some friends and gunsmith have never had any trouble with it. I am saying the release agent that is brownells is the best that I have ever used and I've tried everything listed here with the exception of the wd-40.

Just my $.02 on release agents, but I've been using a spray-on release agent called McLube that I got from Chad Dixon over at LongRifles. Previously, I'd been using Kiwi. The McLube is outstanding stuff, but you better not miss a spot. The one thing I like about Kiwi is that it's easy to make sure you've got perfect coverage.

 

[gotcha]

Hi Guys! While we're on this subject has anyone tried Hornady one-shot for release agent ?? I've been tempted to try but haven't yet for obvious reasons. I'm presently a two coats of Kiwi neutral with each coat being buffed to a shine kinda guy..... I know, If it ain't broke don't fix it But, the spray-ons are an interesting alternative.

 

[jmd]

The kiwi alternative is interesting to me, but I assume that it is used on actions with fine finishes. What if it was a little rougher with some tooling marks or almost a bead blasted matte finish?

 

[bobcat93]

I was just informed never to use kiwi with devcon by a very reputable gunsmith. This was new to me. He said the chemicals in the kiwi will react and weaken the surface strength of Devon ..just FYI

 

[BigDMT]

I was just informed never to use kiwi with devcon by a very reputable gunsmith. This was new to me. He said the chemicals in the kiwi will react and weaken the surface strength of Devon ..just FYI

All I use now is Kiwi and have not seen any signs that indicate surface wear or degradation on the Devcon. I take my guns apart all the time. Maybe he read that on the internet somewhere... :

 

[Patch700]

I've seen poor results when people have used Wd40 ( looked like the bedding had a terrible case of acne like a pubescent teanager on easter)... Never had a problem when I used the polish

 

[NateHaler]

What about a coat of ProActive after wiping off the WD40? I've seen the infomercial, and I think Jessica Simpson has been bedded many times.

 

[Patch700]

What about a coat of ProActive after wiping off the WD40? I've seen the infomercial, and I think Jessica Simpson has been bedded many times.

Were it me in that position .... I would forego the release agent and just go with a straight up glue in

 

[Erik Cortina]

What about a coat of ProActive after wiping off the WD40? I've seen the infomercial, and I think Jessica Simpson has been bedded many times.

LMAO! ;D

 

[Minesweeper3433]

never had an issue with kiwi reacting with devcon. And honestly don't see how it would. It is a neutral clear shoe polish based on wax and I can't see how that would react with an epoxy.

 

[bobcat93]

I have used kiwi on 2 bedding jobs. I found it worked great. I was just passing on the info

 

[katokoch]

I haven't had issues with Kiwi neutral shoe polish and Devcon 10110 yet, although I am wondering if switching to something like a natural paste wax (like Johnson's) could be a better choice for the sake for not contaminating any finish or epoxy work down the road. I looked up the MSDS for Kiwi: http://www.herc.org/library/msds/shoepolish.htm and it sounds like a mix of Caranuba wax with some dyes, a chemical called 1,2,4-TRIMETHYLBENZENE, and lots of Naptha and Mineral Spirits- the vast majority being the latter two ingredients. Johnson's Paste Wax is just mineral spirits, paraffin, and carnauba wax http://www.freemansupply.com/MSDS/scanned/Other/Johnsonpastewax.pdf Lots more wax per volume than the Kiwi and it cleans up super easy (a wipe with mineral spirits). Johnson's has worked pretty well for me too, you can buff it down just as thin as Kiwi Wax and get a great clean surface on the epoxy.

I've tried one spray-on release agent before and the results were not good, although I made a combination of mistakes in that particular bedding attempted. I haven't yet tried the stuff recommended by Chad Dixon, and he swears by it.

 

[bangnclang]

I've bedded rifles with both Devcon and Marine Tex using Hornady one shot, Johnson paste wax and silicone spray. All turned out fine with no release agent working any better than the other. All worked fine, but the spray application is pretty easy and quick!

BnC