German Salazar Primer Test Photo's are amazing to see

[Lee Whitsel]

I think in all the articles I ever read on here German Salaar and his Photo's of primer flash in a dark area is so interesting. I new reloader or old timer will find the difference in primers so different. I had no idea!!!!

 

[Steve Donlon]

Primer Flash Test Photos

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Thanks, I wonder if the exposure time was just a little different that they might look a little different. Very dramatic pictures. And the note about the Fed. SRP date.

 

[bozo699]

I definitely miss his articles!…. Wished I would have had the presence of mind to copy them.
Wayne

 

[old_heli_logger]

Sweet!!! Thank you for posting this! I forgot where it was located.
Now to see if those Remington 7 1/2's will give me a lower ES in my 6Creed

 

[searcher]

Those photos are pretty cool. I remember doing my own primer test, measuring not the flame, but the velocity differences in the same load (was a .223), using all the available small rifle and small rifle magnum primers I had. In Mr. Salazar's photos, the Russian PMC small rifle primer shows a very weak flame compared to the Rem. 7 1/2 primer which looks like a flame thrower in comparison. I don't know if the PMC Russian primers were made by Murom (who made Wolff and Tula), but I remember being very interested to see that my velocities with the Tula magnum primer were less than the Rem. 7 1/2. When I had previously thought all magnum primers were "hotter" than regular primers, my mind was changed after my tests. Those photos validate, in a way, what I had found in my velocity tests. I still wonder how he captured those photos.

 

[DHD]

I would read every blog he posted! I have always wanted to build a 30-06 to use the heavies like he did. I just don't want to deal with the recoil honestly. He taught me a new word back then:brisance. I'm not sure how to just drop it into a polite conversation with anyone except for other handloaders though.

 

[Pete Wass]

I think in all the articles I ever read on here German Salaar and his Photo's of primer flash in a dark area is so interesting. I new reloader or old timer will find the difference in primers so different. I had no idea!!!!

Years ago Precision Shooting had an article with primer pictures; at least 15 years ago. Some years ago I decided to do my own test and decided to fire primers through a rifle barrel on to and old white sock. I had 3 brands of primers to fire, Rem 7.5's, Federal, non BR and Winchester Small rifle.
My thinking was the one that gave the most focused print on the sock would be the best one.

The Winchesters gave a very dark and concentrated mark while the others were scattered about the same. I used Winchesters for years after that until I ran out and couldn't buy any during the last "Shortage".

When I found a thousand at Cabela's when the "Shortage" was over I was elated but much to my dismay there were a number that did not fire. I think a different company must make them now.

 

[Doug Casner]

I worked for olin for a few years. They were good at contracting out . If they could make a penny letting someone else do a job. It was gone. Doug

 

[markm87]

Those photos are pretty cool. I remember doing my own primer test, measuring not the flame, but the velocity differences in the same load (was a .223), using all the available small rifle and small rifle magnum primers I had. In Mr. Salazar's photos, the Russian PMC small rifle primer shows a very weak flame compared to the Rem. 7 1/2 primer which looks like a flame thrower in comparison. I don't know if the PMC Russian primers were made by Murom (who made Wolff and Tula), but I remember being very interested to see that my velocities with the Tula magnum primer were less than the Rem. 7 1/2. When I had previously thought all magnum primers were "hotter" than regular primers, my mind was changed after my tests. Those photos validate, in a way, what I had found in my velocity tests. I still wonder how he captured those photos.

We must be on the same wavelength.

I to sat and did a primer showdown with .223 on the highpower range here in Mesa many years ago. I too found my Russian Wolf SRMs to be the mildest and gave me the best groups and smallest SDs.

Salazar's photos were cool. But actually chronoing ammo with the primer as the only variable is simply amazing. It's just stunning how much a primer can alter the burn characteristics of the output charge.

 

[markm87]

I worked for olin for a few years. They were good at contracting out . If they could make a penny letting someone else do a job. It was gone. Doug

That explains the modern art masterpiece primer flash holes in my Win White Box 40 cal brass. I'm surprised my decapper finds its way through those suckers!

 

[Bill Rodolph]

Randolph Constatine did a similar test that was published in Precision Shooting back in the 90's. I don't remember the results tho. But it does seem some were surprising.

 

[searcher]

We must be on the same wavelength.

I to sat and did a primer showdown with .223 on the highpower range here in Mesa many years ago. I too found my Russian Wolf SRMs to be the mildest and gave me the best groups and smallest SDs.

Salazar's photos were cool. But actually chronoing ammo with the primer as the only variable is simply amazing. It's just stunning how much a primer can alter the burn characteristics of the output charge.

Yep. I bought a rather substantial stash of the Tula primers back in the day. Still shooting them years later and they give me better performance than a lot of my other primers. Really like them.

 

[DHD]

I know I read that article and his description of the tool he made or had made to conduct the test. I seem to remember he described the Remington 7 1/2 as a little flame thrower. I also seem to remember he liked the Wolf SRM. I still like the Wolf SRM myself, but since I only have a few thousand left, I parcel them out like they can't be replaced....

 

[markm87]

Yep. I bought a rather substantial stash of the Tula primers back in the day. Still shooting them years later and they give me better performance than a lot of my other primers. Really like them.

I have little over 25k of the Wolf and Tula some dating back to the Widener's insanely cheap prices. I've slowed down my rifle ammo consumption a bit too due to a pistol shooting lately. So I don't think I'll buy SR primer for a long time.

 

[TC260]

I have little over 25k of the Wolf and Tula some dating back to the Widener's insanely cheap prices.

I'm still burning on those too from the Wideners glory days

 

[Webster]

Thanks, I wonder if the exposure time was just a little different that they might look a little different. Very dramatic pictures. And the note about the Fed. SRP date.

I don't see how you could co-ordinate the shutter opening and closing with an event that takes place in a tiny fraction of a second. My guess is that the shutter was locked open in a dark room and the duration of the flash determined how the image was captured. They were all done the same way. In any case it's very interesting.

 

[Bill Rodolph]

I don't see how you could co-ordinate the shutter opening and closing with an event that takes place in a tiny fraction of a second. My guess is that the shutter was locked open in a dark room and the duration of the flash determined how the image was captured. They were all done the same way. In any case it's very interesting.

Thats the way Randolph did his pictures for Precision Shooting back in the 90's.

 

[Doug Casner]

I dont think they would contract the case forming but they contracted out all the crafts out electrical , plumbers, millwrights, carpenters, painters all the jobs you hoped you might get someday . Cut jobs in production. Im not a big fan of Olin. Doug

 

[Steve Donlon]

I don't see how you could co-ordinate the shutter opening and closing with an event that takes place in a tiny fraction of a second. My guess is that the shutter was locked open in a dark room and the duration of the flash determined how the image was captured. They were all done the same way. In any case it's very interesting.

I understand, I was just thinking if it was just a tiny fraction of a second later or earlier, maybe the picture would look different for the ones with less flash? Of course I could be wrong if they all had the same burn rate.

 

[bozo699]

I understand, I was just thinking if it was just a tiny fraction of a second later or earlier, maybe the picture would look different for the ones with less flash? Of course I could be wrong if they all had the same burn rate.

Not if the shutter is left open, it will capture it all….. before it’s fired until long after if you desire
Wayne