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I spend 9 months out of the year in Colorado, and guys flock here during fall for elk season. Know what a non-resident elk license costs? 546 bucks. To take how many shots on one animal...

Pickup truck to ND at 14 mpg split 3 ways to shoot my little heart out...? I'm still going haha. While I am not happy with the prices, there's simply nothing we can do about it. We will still buy it no matter what the cost, so they can charge whatever they want. It's just business, there's a huge demand, so there's a huge price tag.

Like I said, I don't like it! But there are far more expensive hobbies out there. And how many other hobbies do you get to watch critters fly through the air? ;D
 
LOL, Wayne. When I drove satellite TV trucks, I only drove them one way - with the loud pedal on the floor. But now that I'm paying for the fuel, my driving style has changed.
And don't forget, there is a huge monetary difference between 5.5 MPG and 7.5 MPG, especially when you are crossing the country. :)
 
Last Thursday when my small town weekly news paper in northeastern California came out it had a small blurb in it said how gas was going to hit $5.00 a gallon by this summer. Gas at the mini-mart was $3.969 then, well here it is a not even a week later, gas had jumped 30 cents a gallon at $4.299. Wonder what it will be today....
 
And the futures price of crude has gone down 2 days in a row, i like the way they immediately jack it a dime when any increase of the futures market is involved, but takes weeks to drop when crude futures crash. I still want to know why the crude is bought and sold as a commodity and it affects us across the republic. I did ask one young girl at our local rape and pillage station last friday who tells them to raise it up a dime. She responded that the other stores call her, i asked her again who tells them to raise it and she could not answer. Went by a few hours later and it had gone up a dime. A year ago exactly it was 3.59 and crude was priced at 104-105 a barrel, Now its 107 a barrel and its 3.79 here. I remember when it was 148 a barrel in 2008 and it reached 4.08 a gallon here locally very briefly. Can anyone say some hyperinflation added in somewhere to account for our weakening dollar and other countries wanting to drop our dollar as the reserve currency.. This stuff gets my blood boiling and i have a full year of matches planned (about 22) but I will attend them all. Nothing we can do about it, there will always be some speculators, scammers and CEOs who don't care about anyone but them selves and where greed is the rule of the day. I studied peak oil a few years ago and IMHO that is a myth. Who ever controls the oil controls the world's economy. I feel better now, rant over. 8)

Frank
 
I paid $4.42/gallon for regular last night at a Shell Station. That was a shock. I think the price was $3.99 last time I filled up maybe 10 days ago.

Somebody is making money. Maybe time to buy some Shell Oil stock.
 
wildchild said:
jerrschmitt said:
I was just having this conversation with my wife. We use about 125 gallons of fuel in the motorhome to get to our dog town. If gas goes up $3.00 per gallon more than last year that will mean it will cost me $135 more than last year. (Fuel cost split 3 ways) That's not a deal breaker for me when you considerer what I spend on ammo. Thats 10 lunches at Mc Donalds, Five trips to the local steak house (a cheap joint), or one trip to the Mall for my wife.

It sucks, but it is what it is.

I'm going.
Boy is that a $#%@^&* way of looking at it, hope you dont have other trips for rest of the year...you must walk to work and grow your own garden for food!

Not sure what "$#%@^&*" means but, I'm retired so I don't go to work. I have a small garden but not big enough to feed me for the year. My house is paid for and I have no bills. It took a lot of years of hard work to get where I am today and I don't let petty crap get to me.

Fussing over it won't change it. Voting right won't change it. Letters to my politicians won't change it. It case you haven't noticed, The dip shits have won. People love the free crap they get from the Government and they'll keep voting the welfare givers in.
 
I hate to tell you guys this. I was in Casper, WYO a couple days ago and paid 2.89 a gallon. What a difference compared to California!
 
Forum Boss said:
I paid $4.42/gallon for regular last night at a Shell Station....

Welcome to the prices the rest of the world has been paying for ages. Actually, yours are still clearly cheaper.

Chris-NZ
 
Unfortunately, nobody is entitled to cheap gas, least of all us Americans, who pay some of the lowest prices for gas in the developed world. The high gas prices have little to do with politics but more with global supply and demand, which goes up up up every year. Combined with the fact that there's not a lot of "slack" in the system and you have high prices and volatility.
 
We drive about 700 miles to get to our PD towns. Last summer we rented a car (30 mpg) and three of us packed our gear and drove out. Was it packed? Oh yeah. But at the end we probably cut gas budget in half compared to driving my truck (18 mpg). It wasn't that bad. If the curent busy work schedule allows we plan to rejoin the 'summer classic' on those beautiful sunshine-filles prairies...... good times.
 
Jayman,

What kind of a car get 30 mpg AND get 3 people AND their gear?? You guys pack light?

My son & I have rented Tahoe sized vehicles (ugh mpg) and it was pretty well packed with 6 rifles, ammo (of course), shooting tables, cooler, clothes, etc. Can't remember everything but it was a long list.
 
We complain and grouse about the price of gas, but we will still buy it and use it to the same quantity as before, and THEY know that. get used to it, we enable them to these prices. Tell the farmer or rancher he should be driving a Volt or smart car. A great hoax brot to the American Public. twenty years ago a 1982 Chevy impala got 30 mpg on the Highway. A Chevy Diesel 1983 1/2 tonPU 28 mpg. 1994 Oldsmobile 88 28 mpg hiway, today you are lucky to get that out of a KIA. Are the oil cos and auto cos in this together????? YEAH YEAH YEAH I have heard it all on emission control and clean air, well sell that scam and program in the cities, leave the rest of us alone, have not seen smog in my part of the country ever. How much smog is in SD, WY,ND or similar areas.
 
itchyTF said:
Jayman,

What kind of a car get 30 mpg AND get 3 people AND their gear?? You guys pack light?

My son & I have rented Tahoe sized vehicles (ugh mpg) and it was pretty well packed with 6 rifles, ammo (of course), shooting tables, cooler, clothes, etc. Can't remember everything but it was a long list.
Itchy - have you driven these newer cars? Unreal mileage. I don't recall the exact model but I believe we were actually getting close to 35mph on freeway.

And yes it was cramped - for 3 of us we brought 5 rifles, about 2,000 rounds of ammo, cleaning supplies, a big cooler packed with ice and food, daypacks with elbow and knee pads, about 4 days worth of clothes. It worked out because one of the rear seats tilted down, so we placed the rifles into the trunk lenghwise so that they laid partially onto the back seat.

Wouldn't change it for the world. Had a great time. The rancher felt bad for us driving out in a car so he gave us his 3/4 ton flatbed to tool around the hills in for the day. Worked out great - we had two shooters in the back and another driving along. Good times.....
 
ChrisNZ said:
Forum Boss said:
I paid $4.42/gallon for regular last night at a Shell Station....

Welcome to the prices the rest of the world has been paying for ages. Actually, yours are still clearly cheaper.

Chris-NZ

The difference in the price of gas here and in the rest of the world is in the Tax that people allow their government to get away with.
 
People talk a lot about the price of crude oil, but no one has mentioned the impact of our oil refining capabilities.
 
Jayman_10x said:
And yes it was cramped - for 3 of us we brought 5 rifles, about 2,000 rounds of ammo, cleaning supplies, a big cooler packed with ice and food, daypacks with elbow and knee pads, about 4 days worth of clothes. It worked out because one of the rear seats tilted down, so we placed the rifles into the trunk lenghwise so that they laid partially onto the back seat.

Wouldn't change it for the world. Had a great time. The rancher felt bad for us driving out in a car so he gave us his 3/4 ton flatbed to tool around the hills in for the day. Worked out great - we had two shooters in the back and another driving along. Good times.....

Without shooting tables I can see it being possible. Tight, but possible. Once went with two other guys in a two door grand am on a goose hunting trip. That was tight! But that little grand am plowed through the fields just as good as a truck, surprised me actually.

Not a bad deal you got though, being able to use his truck.
 
nhm16 said:
Unfortunately, nobody is entitled to cheap gas, least of all us Americans, who pay some of the lowest prices for gas in the developed world. The high gas prices have little to do with politics but more with global supply and demand, which goes up up up every year. Combined with the fact that there's not a lot of "slack" in the system and you have high prices and volatility.

I find it hard to believe that the prices we are paying per barrel would not come down if we started drilling into "our" reserves and building more refineries.
 
CoverDog said:
nhm16 said:
Unfortunately, nobody is entitled to cheap gas, least of all us Americans, who pay some of the lowest prices for gas in the developed world. The high gas prices have little to do with politics but more with global supply and demand, which goes up up up every year. Combined with the fact that there's not a lot of "slack" in the system and you have high prices and volatility.

I find it hard to believe that the prices we are paying per barrel would not come down if we started drilling into "our" reserves and building more refineries.

Why would it come down? Even if they could pump from a perminantly refilling pool of crude we would still pay super high prices. They would give a thousand reasons for the high costs. In the end we will pay for their greed.
 
Oddly, I think the price of gas going crazy is probably a good sign as far as the ecconomy is concerned. Remember the last time that gas prices were through the roof? That was right before the '08 crash.

I'm not happy about the price of gas, but I think we are finally getting back to the mess we were in before. That's still a lot of stuff to fix, but at least we are getting back to a place where there is enough money floating around the economy to drive gas prices up.

Now if we could get the oil companies to pay some taxes, maybe the rest of us could pay a little less and still have enough left over to keep bridges from collapsing.
 

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