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FYI Burn Rate Chart

Thanks Ned, I’ll have to check out Quickload.

QuickLoad can be very useful and a good way to identify a starting point for load development. Most users find that some of the "preset" inputs such as case volume, need to be replaced with actual values in order to obtain better predictions. I generally use it with as many known inputs as I have (i.e. COAL, bullet OAL, true case volume, powder choice, etc.) to find the predicted upper limit (MAX pressure), and then look for possible accuracy nodes below that limit. I typically drop the charge weight another 2% or so for safety reasons, load up some rounds, then determine the average velocity for a known charge weight.

Once back at home, I use the average velocity data to "calibrate" the program for that specific rifle setup by inputting the actual temperature and adjusting the burn rate factor (Ba) until the predicted velocity exactly matches the measured velocity. Once that has been done, I find the predictions to be pretty accurate over a moderate range of charge weights. If you have to change the charge weight by a large amount, it may be necessary to re-adjust the burn rate factor (Ba) to get the predicted and actual velocities to match exactly. The program is largely set up to generate linear responses to changing parameters such as charge weight, but in reality, the response of velocity and pressure to changing charge weight is not always perfectly linear. QuickLoad is not a replacement for load development in any way, but I find it a very useful tool to expedite the process and analyze testing results.

https://www.neconos.com/quickload-ballistic-prediction-software/
 
You’ve given me good starting information, thanks again.

The rifle in the discussion is a piece of benchrest history and should be in a museum but it’s so great to shoot.

An early 1960’s Taylor and Robbins 25 lb unlimited bag gun that shoots in the 1’s and 0’s regularly.


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Given where 6.5 Staball lands on the chart I'm curious about something. Hodgdon gives load data for 77 gr and heavier bullets in 223. From what testing I have seen it works surprisingly well in 223 and 77 gr bullets. Given that I'm wondering how it would perform in 6.5 Grendel? The reason I ask is Hodgdon missed the mark by not giving load data for 6.5 Grendel and CFE223, which really does work well together.
 
I have ~ 65 cartridges and ~60 powders and ~ 60 loadbooks and Quickload for 20 years with updates.

But due to a lack of range time in the last 3 years all I have shot is:

IMR-4166 in 6.5-06 [shot deer and antelope]
IMR-4451 7mmRM [shot deer and antelope]
IMR-4166 280AI [shot deer and antelope]
IMR-4451 in 25 Krag Ackley[ in Mosin] [shot deer]
CFE 223 in 250 Sav [shot deer]


RE23 in 25 Krag Ackley [in a Krag]
MR-4166 in 7mmSTW
IMR-4451 257 Roberts
IMR-4451 260
IMR-4166 308
 
If you haven't already found it, Hodgdon has updated its burn rate chart. It includes LT powders, all the new Alliant powders, the Enduron powders and Winchester.

https://www.hodgdon.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/burn-rate-color.pdf
Once again, the "list" is wrong and could get you into trouble! They have VV N150 at slot 119! This should be at slot 109. They got N550 at 130 and it should be at 120. They have N560 at 143 and it should be at 138. AND last but certainly NOT least>>>>and this one needs to REALLY be looked at PRIOR to your using it: They got RL-23 at 144 and it should be at 136! I have used ALL of these powders extensively. T-Rust me, they have them in the wrong place!
 
When I started reloading 20 years ago I overloaded to destruction, every 9mm bullet and pistol powder.

I was puzzled that burning rate charts showed AA#5 as slower than Power Pistol....maybe a some low pressure, but a high pressure Power Pistol is much slower.
 
On blenders some have "chop" faster than "whirl", but some have it the other way around.

Always best to read the manual. I have written many and got edited by a "tech writer" with no engineering degree.
 

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