Frustrated by my poor shooting!

[jelenko]

Action-panda
Stock- Kelbly SPG, pillared & glued in by Kelbly.
Trigger- Jewell, installed & timed by Kelbly.
Rings- Kelbly.
Scope- Slll-45x
Barrel-Krieger.

I have 2 in this set up and they are identical. 2nd Panda has a Shilen on it now.
Gunsmith who does my barrel work is a Score & Hunter class National Champion.

Sounds like you haven't confirmed it shoots small. You never know until it's confirmed. All kinds of things can happen.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

Get you a suppressed 22lr and practice. And or an air rifle.

 

[R.Morehouse]

This book has helped me. I go back to it often, with much of it highlighted. It is a quick read and easily put into practice......Best Of Luck....( luck really does have very little to do with it )

Regards
Rick

 

[TonyinKY]

The best year I ever had in SRBR I had written out a list of goals for the year.
Something like:
Place top 3 in five local matches.
Win five yardage aggs.
Win at least one grand agg.
Place top 3 at a new range.
Place top 10 in a state match.
Etc…..
I used high but reasonable expectations and surpassed every single one. Looking back I wish I had raised the bar a little. I wasn’t out to “win” every match but to do the best I could possibly do at each match. The local KY crowd are some of the best and are capable of winning anywhere. When you shoot amongst national champions and record holders you know a decent finish is something you can be proud of. I’d suggest focusing on doing “good” and let the rewards come to you.

Also don’t make fun of a buddy’s 2” group. It may haunt you.

 

[FNSafari]

Find a friend with a great shooting rifle. Ask him if you can shoot a few targets. If you do well, its a sign that something may be amiss with your equipment.

 

[jcline]

Frankie,
I have found having a “TRUE” zero on your rifle makes a really big difference. If you are a click high and a click right from where you should be it might be ok in an orange wind but when and if you have to shoot green, you are already off 1/8 of an inch each way assuming you are shooting 100 yards. Most every gun on the line any given week can win, the winner is normally determined by who can read the wind the best. Thats just my 2 cents worth.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Having the same thing this year. All my equipment is top shelf. But this year I can't find the groove
What I did was have a very good shooter shoot my set up and load. He shot a .196 5x5 agg. I have a bug in my bench manors.
Good Luck finding your bug.

Get a good spring air rifle like a TX200, HW 97, D75, FWB300 and start shooting off the bench at 20 to 25 yards. That will teach you bench manners like no centerfire will. You don't see much about bench manners, nothing to sell you, but very important.

 

[AlNyhus]

One of the things that can creep in is not staying on the gun as it recoils. It seems counter intuitive but increasing the trigger pull weight can also help.

 

[David Conder]

Jim is right true zero is a must an know how to find

 

[KMart]

One of the things that can creep in is not staying on the gun as it recoils. It seems counter intuitive but increasing the trigger pull weight can also help.

In my trapshooting days I developed a flinch, same as the yips. What finally helped get out of the flinching, I increased the trigger pull about 1 pound. What that did was to allow me to feel the trigger. I found out that my trigger was too light, and my brain was telling my finger not to move.

 

[ebb]

On post one you listed the chamberings that you shoot, no Creedmoor was listed, what are you thinking? Seriously, old age is taking it's toll on me, I have a Kahr 45acp that I don't have the ability pull the slide back far enough to chamber a round. I was thinking of welding a piece of pipe to the slide and put a bike handle grip on it.

 

[LCazador]

Last year was so bad, I wouldn't get out of the electric chair to do it again. I started off with all new equipment. 2 rifles, front rest, rear bag. I thought I was ready. All I did was spend the whole year sorting out problems and chasing a lightswitch for a tune window. In the end, I was using the wrong rear bag, and nothing I did made either gun shoot until I went back to my old one.

I finally had a stable enough platform to figure out my neck tension was all wrong. Despite fixing those things, this year started off bad. I decided to shitcan my whole tune, and went to the range and developed a whole new powder ladder at 300 yards. I found 3 nodes all better than the one I had been using, and all much faster. Next up is another neck tension test to put that to bed, and seating depth so I can nail that down. Then I get to start all over lol.

This is a great post! What's been working isn't always going to work. It's broke till you fix it!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

While I can't vouch for every one of them, Frankie has top shelf equipment....possibly too many, if that's a thing. Lol!

It can help to focus on one.

"Beware the man with only one rifle. Chances are, he knows what he's doing with it."

 

[Will Henry]

When I was shooting a lot of BR, about my fourth year of competing, I suddenly found myself unable to consistently hit my ass with both hands. I was shooting a lot of decent four shot groups but at some point was always tossing a shot high. I was certain I had an ignition problem so I changed the spring, reset the protrusion, tried different primers, all to no avail. One day, a friend was out practicing with me and asked if he could try my rifle. The rifle with which I was shooting nice vertical groups of around 3/8. He parked five into about .125. He enjoyed that so much, he did it again. The truth hit home. I sucked! I finally realized I was not maintaining my position when the trigger broke. I am a bag squeezer and I was relaxing when the trigger broke. This caused the shot to hit high. I worked on that and had a pretty good season. My conclusion is that we occasionally let bad habits creep into our shooting and this is the result.
Now, on the Metallic Silhouette range, it's a little different. I'm shooting poorly because I'm old, shaky, and I'm a choker. That is, I seize up under pressure. Recently, I've shot so badly, I've noticed the other shooters regarding me with pity in their eyes. I long ago realized, if I pull the trigger when the dot is on the berm, I can usually hit the berm. Now, if I could just quit pointing at the berm when the trigger breaks, I'd be good. Right now, I yearn for mediocrity! WH

 

[Shooter13]

Frankie,
For myself, I had to slow down in everything I was doing at the bench. I would get in a rush, drop a few points then spiral down from there. I just have to tell myself to slow down and breath.
My biggest competitor is myself.

I am planning on shooting at Bluegrass later this month.

Tim

I'm trying! Actually Sandy says I'm very trying! Take that for what it's worth! LOL

 

[Shooter13]

While I can't vouch for every one of them, Frankie has top shelf equipment....possibly too many, if that's a thing. Lol!

It can help to focus on one.

"Beware the man with only one rifle. Chances are, he knows what he's doing with it."

LOL, yep, I've tried to work with just one........................still working on it ;-)

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I'm trying! Actually Sandy says I'm very trying! Take that for what it's worth! LOL

IME, BR is a lot harder than golf but is comparable.
Like golf, when ya get decent, ya beat up on a lot of others, but takes time. I'll say it again...you are ready to break out but ya gotta do it and yes, one gun makes it's easier

 

[Fullbore308]

Frankie,
Send your stocks to @Bc'z and hit the painting node. Simple fix buddy

 

[Bc'z]

Frankie,
Send your stocks to @Bc'z and hit the painting node. Simple fix buddy

The paint node is real, I've personally experienced it.

 

[ELR LVR]

I am a bag squeezer and I was relaxing when the trigger broke. This caused the shot to hit high.

Exactly one point I was trying to make.
Thats great you honed in on this.
Some people... by beginners luck even, may shoot really well at first, but without realizing or analyzing everything they are doing perfectly.
Women and Kids are a perfect example of this, shooting for group accuracy for their first few times.
Then bad habits start to creep in and start messing with things and a person must then have to analyze every single movement of theirs to figure out not just why they may be shooting bad
But what made them shoot good before.
If a person doesn't log it into visual memory and muscle memory the data gets lost.
Even the way the sight picture looks through the scope must be the same during trigger break and follow through. I can usually tell just by this alone if the shot is on the money or if I threw it before even seeing it hit the target.
And many people especially beginners don't realize how important everything must be the same each shot.

Every..........................................................................thing,

cheek placement, shoulder placement, cheek pressure, shoulder pressure, finger pad placement, finger pull speed, finger placement low or high on the trigger shoe.
Eye distance to scope each shot,
perfect, smooth consistent breathing where you break the shot at the same time during the exhale
....And On and On.
There is a lot of criteria to actually log into memory before it can be set into muscle memory.
Did I say it takes years of consistent repeat shooting?
maybe the people who suddenly start shooting bad dont believe
You dont practice until you finally get it right
You practice every week until you can no longer get it wrong.
If you skip a week, you get to start your clock alllll over again from day 1
Now how many years it gonna take to be good?
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Beginning shooters should do themselves a big service and look up and research
"the rule of 10,000"
This includes the hold on the rifle the bag etc being exactly the same each shot during follow through
Follow through is not finished until you see the shot hit the target
As opposed to thinking you are finished and can relax once you are done squeezing the trigger.
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Tightening up or loosening up right at the last second will do it every single time and throw that flier
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A person must, they have no choice in the matter...MUST
understand how long it takes to develop a clean consistent follow through that is going to be the same for the rest of their life.
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And everyone should remember the way I was taught to play classical music
Practice don't make perfect no matter how often
It is "Perfect practice.............makes perfect"