Front bags and rifle torque

[Fast14riot]

After filming myself shooting at a match on Saturday, I've noticed the torque during recoil is more pronounced than it feels, which has me wondering if a different front bag would help.

Stock is a Revolution (same shape as Shehane MBR) 3" wide with cutout under forearm. Rest is a Cowan with a standard leather Protektor bag. Shooting 153.5 Berger in 260AI.

The 4 piece bags I don't think will work as I don't have any way to hold the side bags. I'm not getting any bounce or unexplained vertical in my shots, just torque that is causing me to reset more than I like after a shot.

Thoughts?

 

[Sandstorm]

It may need some lubricaton ( teflon ) in
the front bag. Make sure it recoilin straight back. I would not think a 260 would be rotating to the right on tourque very much. I could be wrong. ? I dont have any issue like that shootin a 284
( yea it could be your front bag ) or not

 

[Fast14riot]

I use talc on my bags, recoil is nice and straight. Just twisty, lol

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

How high is the center of gravity? The higher the center of gravity the more torque manifests.

 

[Sandstorm]

Try and lower the rear a little. Not as tall a rear bag might be the ticket.. id give it shot. Punn intend

 

[gme]

sometimes what looks like "torque" is actually how the buttpad interacts with your shoulder, if you shoot with the buttpad away from the shoulder at all and it doesn't land in the center of the "pocket" it can twist quite a bit

 

[FeMan]

I am justing starting in F Class and shoot a 284. The only time I notice issues with the rifle torquing in the bags is when I have too much shoulder in the rifle. I think it may be position of the shoulder too, like gme stated above. As long as I watch my shoulder, it shoots perfectly. When I dont, I am not sure anything else in the front would tame this.

 

[Fast14riot]

All good info. I was curious if putting a square stock into what is essentially a round bag and forcing the square corners may allow a little more jump from the left side than a bag built with a square bottom. I know I can't capture the stock with the front bag.

 

[Sandstorm]

Im not sure its your front setup at all. Sir

 

[Fast14riot]

Im not sure its your front setup at all. Sir

Which is why I asked. I will try out different suggestions and see what works.

 

[FNSafari]

You can't eliminate rifle torquing, especially if you use heavier bullets and a fast twist barrel tailored to your bullet length. One of the reasons score shooters moved away from the used to be standard 14 twist barrel for 1" long 30 cal bullets to mostly 17 twist and some 18. Makes a huge diff.

 

[Larry Koch]

Rain-X will work all day.

 

[22BRGUY]

I am justing starting in F Class and shoot a 284. The only time I notice issues with the rifle torquing in the bags is when I have too much shoulder in the rifle. I think it may be position of the shoulder too, like gme stated above. As long as I watch my shoulder, it shoots perfectly. When I dont, I am not sure anything else in the front would tame this.

The "torque energy" from the bullet being forced down the spiral rifling has to go somewhere. The heavier/longer the bullet, the more spiral "torque energy" is created.
Taller bag ears might help.