Forster Co-ax or RCBS Rockchucher Supreme?
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RMW59:
You really can't go wrong with either press as both are time proven. I just like the Co-Ax as it loads such fine ammo and is so user friendly.
One way to think about all this is that it is just like looking through your iron sights at a 1000 yd target in the prone game --
the round target has to fit into the round front sight and all of that has to fit into the round rear sight -- in exact allignment -- or the shot does not go were you want.
Another example is having to recut the threads on an action so that correctly cut threads on a barrel will match up -- one circle inside another.
Having said that, a round case goes into a round die, and a round bullet goes in the case, and the loaded ammo goes into a round chamber to be fired in a round bore. What happens if one or more of the components are not truly "round" and are misalligned with the other? In the long range accuracy game, that is often called a tomato stake.
Favor the center,
Jim Hardy
You really can't go wrong with either press as both are time proven. I just like the Co-Ax as it loads such fine ammo and is so user friendly.
One way to think about all this is that it is just like looking through your iron sights at a 1000 yd target in the prone game --
the round target has to fit into the round front sight and all of that has to fit into the round rear sight -- in exact allignment -- or the shot does not go were you want.
Another example is having to recut the threads on an action so that correctly cut threads on a barrel will match up -- one circle inside another.
Having said that, a round case goes into a round die, and a round bullet goes in the case, and the loaded ammo goes into a round chamber to be fired in a round bore. What happens if one or more of the components are not truly "round" and are misalligned with the other? In the long range accuracy game, that is often called a tomato stake.
Favor the center,
Jim Hardy
Hey guys
I'm a little late getting in on this topic but after reading
it I just had to add my five cents worth.
Is there anybody out there that does not like the press
,or presses) that they are using.
This argument sounds a little familiar to the one
about GM, Ford, and Dodge. Of course Toyota is the best...
The one part that I read about that I did agree with was the fact that the case and the bullet are aligned within the die
and the slop in the shell holder limits its job to pushing and pulling.
With the dies that I use, which are Redding competition, it make no difference to me which press was used because I will still shoot the eye from a ground hog at a 100 yards.
In the end this was a useless pissing contest which served
only to convince some poor guy that he had bought the wrong press
and that is the reason he can"t get his gun to shoot.
Shooting is fun...no matter what color your tools are.
Thane
I'm a little late getting in on this topic but after reading
it I just had to add my five cents worth.
Is there anybody out there that does not like the press
,or presses) that they are using.
This argument sounds a little familiar to the one
about GM, Ford, and Dodge. Of course Toyota is the best...
The one part that I read about that I did agree with was the fact that the case and the bullet are aligned within the die
and the slop in the shell holder limits its job to pushing and pulling.
With the dies that I use, which are Redding competition, it make no difference to me which press was used because I will still shoot the eye from a ground hog at a 100 yards.
In the end this was a useless pissing contest which served
only to convince some poor guy that he had bought the wrong press
and that is the reason he can"t get his gun to shoot.
Shooting is fun...no matter what color your tools are.
Thane
I am a little late on this thread also. I have bee using Lee presses since I started loading. I finally broke the lee challenger press I had and bought the lee classic cast. Accuracy acctually went down. I thought it was just me for a while but..I borrowed a RCBS challenger press from a friend and accuracy returned. I made the plung and ordered a Forster Co Ax. I have been thinking about it for over a year now. I just hope it lives up to its reputation.
While I love my Forster Co-Ax, I've recently run into problems with frame casting flex on my new press,this was occurring all along). I called Forster this week and they are a good company and are taking care of it. However, for the money Forster commands for their press, you would think that they would return to using allen screws for assembly of the castings rather than roll pins. You would also think that flex wouldn't be in someone's vocabulary that owns a Forster press. Here are some pictures:
The frame casting flex is around the 'A' pin on the left side as seen in the picture. Forster states that this shouldn't affect concentricity. However, I would feel better having it corrected.
The frame casting flex is around the 'A' pin on the left side as seen in the picture. Forster states that this shouldn't affect concentricity. However, I would feel better having it corrected.
Co-ax hands down. I notice that the press is now selling through Midway, Graf, and Midsouth for just about half of what I paid for mine. I don't know if Forster started taking shortcuts in the manufacturing of the Co-ax press or not. I hope they have not.
I have had mine for quite some time and it turns out the best most uniform ammo I have ever loaded in 50 years of handloading. I've never had a problem with the press. All my match dies fit fine, and I use the micrometer style seaters. I don't know anyone loading match ammo that ever had a die that was too tall to fit under the handle. BTW, I saw one on the bench during a TV program about the USMC sniper program and their precision ammo production.
I have had mine for quite some time and it turns out the best most uniform ammo I have ever loaded in 50 years of handloading. I've never had a problem with the press. All my match dies fit fine, and I use the micrometer style seaters. I don't know anyone loading match ammo that ever had a die that was too tall to fit under the handle. BTW, I saw one on the bench during a TV program about the USMC sniper program and their precision ammo production.
RN Submariner; I didn't like switching the Co-ax shellholders either, so I purchased the 2nd Co-ax and never looked back. Coax also offers an adapter so that you can use interchangeable shellholders. USS Threadfin,SS410) 1957-1958.
The only drawback to the coax is bullet pulling. My RCBS collet pullers don't work with the coax. I use one of my Hollywood presses for that.
Overall I enjoy the coax over all the other presses that I have.
Carl L.
The only drawback to the coax is bullet pulling. My RCBS collet pullers don't work with the coax. I use one of my Hollywood presses for that.
Overall I enjoy the coax over all the other presses that I have.
Carl L.
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