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Forming Dasher with....Not Varget.

I will never form any new brass with anything but Bullseye, on top of that I will never waste another bullet or turn another neck until I have formed brass to work with!

With the advice of my gunsmith Fred @ SSS who started this practice forming his dasher brass, I used it to form my 6mm Remington AI brass using his technique, and found it the fastest, easiest, most economical way to make perfect brass in two steps! With the dasher it does require making the false shoulder first, but that is the case regardless how you are going to fire it.

What is needed is a filler, I used corn cob media, some use cream of wheat, or corn meal, but whatever you choose to fill the case after the 6 to10 grains of bullseye and then plug it with anything from paraffin bees wax or bar soap, is going to be much less wear on the barrel than bullets, and will do the exact same thing!

It aint rocket science and for me I started with 12 grains of bullseye in the sized down 8x57 Lapua brass to err on the side of caution, but ended up at 14 grains to get sharp shoulders. Then the real advantage was using my K&M neck turner with the inside cutter mandrel once I opened the cases and seated a bullet to determine how much material I needed to remove to get my loaded neck dia. I was after.

I simply ran all cases thru the expander mandrel and turned my necks, while assuring I had no donut to contend with all at the same time doing it this way!! The K&M only cuts the donut with there inside cutting mandrel's, not the whole neck. Plus I have not wasted any barrel life running bullets thru my brand new barrel to do it. After this all my forming from 6mm ppc to the largest cases I can think of will be done this exact same way, and I am assured from the very first loading I will have not just perfect formed cases, but exact neck dimensions and no chance of donuts, period.

Results were pretty good for 6mm AI in a Savage Axis,,,
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As you can see it works quite well! starting with the 46.5 grn. load in the top right I worked up to 47.0 grn 47.3 grn.and 47.5 grains going counter clockwise, the 47.0 grn. load is 4 shots in one hole and I made an adjustment up and left to center the poi and went just 2 click to far left which I changed after completing my test, which resulted in using the 47.3 load as my no go to for this gun. But is by far the easiest and best way I have formed new brass in over 4 decades of playing with any type of wildcat,,, hence my user name,,,,
 
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Neck-turn before fire-forming is my advise, for the above reasoning/results.
I make the same first cut when using bullets to fireform, I have still found slight donuts, plus I have been off a .001th or so on my intended neck .dia turning before fireforming, but I had to to fit the chamber for that initial firing,, using virgin brass and no bullets, then turn, am 100% on with my thickness and donuts are never an issue.
 

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