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Forming 6br brass from .308?

Semantics.

Shoulder 'doesn't move' = shoulder re-formed out of what once was case wall, while former shoulder becomes new neck.

Base-to-shoulder datum is changed according to specs of cartridge shape desired.
One thing to keep in mind when forming cases in this manner is that your new cases are going to be quite thick due to the fact that you have been shoving back the shoulder area and case body , so your case capacity will be sometimes significantly less than say off the shelf brass.. Therefore affecting the load data that may be used for that cartridge.

Semantics? A new word, it did not apply when "due to the fact you are shoving back the shoulder", and one more time I said the shoulder does not move.

F. Guffey

I did say when I have managed to move the shoulder back I created cases with bellows or cases that looked like accordions because I literally moved moved the shoulder back.
 
You would be surprised at what you can form without having "Form dies" by simply starting with the newly chosen caliber seating die and leaving it high up in the press so as when the ram is near the top of the stroke that is the point at which a small amount of sizing begins.. Then merely lower the ram , screw die down a quarter turn , resize , lower ram , screw die down quarter turn etc etc.. When that case is done you continue the steps in the sizing die until you have something that will chamber after it has been trimmed etc.

One thing to keep in mind when forming cases in this manner is that your new cases are going to be quite thick due to the fact that you have been shoving back the shoulder area and case body , so your case capacity will be sometimes significantly less than say off the shelf brass.. Therefore affecting the load data that may be used for that cartridge.

As an example , I have formed a single 243 win case out of a 284 win case using the above method , it's not easy and the brass is merely used as a conversation piece but it can be done.

You will need to do some annealing obviously along with investing in either an inside neck reamer or an appropriate expanding mandrel mates to a quality neck turning setup.

Could it be done? Absolutely , would I do it? No and for two reasons... Firstly the cases would now be using large primers and secondly the diminished case capacity.

Good luck.

The brass doesn't know the difference between one stroke on the press vs several short strokes.
 
The brass doesn't know the difference between one stroke on the press vs several short strokes.
That's been true for me lately Webster. I have been able to size 308 brass down to really long neck 7br brass in one stroke using an RCBS 7br FL sizing die. Still working on getting it to 6br with a shoulder pushed back far enough to close the bolt on.
 

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