for the money

[jraney]

hey folks i need some info,i really want a new gun
but there is only so much i can spend on a gun for a couple
of reasons first my wife it would not go over with her to well.
second i do not want to spend so much on it that i am worried about it in the field. last i just do not have those type of funds some of you may have. back to the problem i want it
to be able to shoot long distances effectivly. i already have a .22-250 and .223 so i would like something bigger. it will be used on basically anything that moves as far as i can see.
so sense money is a factor what would yawl suggest?

thanks
jraney

 

[jr600yd]

308, If you can see it you can hit it.

 

[NateHaler]

hey folks i need some info,i really want a new gun. it will be used on basically anything that moves as far as i can see.

Use your money to take a Hunter's Safety Course. Then read the hunting regulations booklet that applies to your state.

 

[NateHaler]

308, If you can see it you can hit it.

good grief. Maybe you live in an area where the air is so polluted that you can't see the moon, but your suggestion above is nothing if not ridiculous.

 

[jraney]

huh maybe nate did not understand the question. so let me clear it up. i would like a caliber of gun that is able to Effectivly
hit and KILL anything out to as far as needed. oh and on the
hunters education course i don't think it says anything about the distance one can take or attempt to take an animal. anyhow
since i do not reload are there some good light grain factory bullets?

 

[Dgd6mm]

I guess some people on this site want to feel superior, and make others feel inferior. Price yourself a Savage rifle with an accutrigger in a 7-08,or 308 and you will be fine. By the way if you have any more question's just ask, someone will give you GOOD advice. Take care.

 

[jraney]

thanks thats all i wanted to know just some calibers with enough
meat left at long ranges. much appreciated.

jraney

 

[Spook]

also take a look at 280 Ackley Imp with 162 hornady Amax.

AHEM....Some prople need to get over how important they and there opinions really are... or arent in this instance... WTF?

 

[jraney]

well forgot to mention that i do not reload so it would need to
a factory bought cartridge. but thanks for the input.

 

[NateHaler]

.280 Ackley Improved, for cheap? Not one mfg. makes a factory rifle in this chambering. May as well suggest a .338 Lapua, for which you can buy factory rifles and ammunition.

This could be just the ticket to "shoot anything that moves" past 1,000y. Hardly a responsible attitude. Just the sort of thing that brings grief on the shooting sports in general. Knucklehead actions and attitudes don't do the cause any favors.

 

[Spook]

Actually Mr. Haler I was thinking a rechamber of a factory rifle. Not particularly expensive as I see things,but expense is relative. If you'll take the time to reread what jraney asks,it starts out "for the money"....and you come up with 338LM? I'll assume you were being facetious as opposed to uninformed as to the cost of components and rifles.
The guys attitude is none of my business, and likely none of yours.
While I might or might not agree with jraneys getting a rifle and shooting at everything he see's ....I do like the fact that he's wanting to shoot and hunt, and dont see the point in making him feel less than included.
What I disagree with is some guy that sounds like an elitist snob attempting to epitomize his standards and "wisdom" at the expense of member's with 33 or 25 posts respectively. Relax... its only life....and nobody gets out alive.

 

[tightneck]

Actually Mr. Haler I was thinking a rechamber of a factory rifle. Not particularly expensive as I see things,but expense is relative. If you'll take the time to reread what jraney asks,it starts out "for the money"....and you come up with 338LM? I'll assume you were being facetious as opposed to uninformed as to the cost of components and rifles.
The guys attitude is none of my business, and likely none of yours.
While I might or might not agree with jraneys getting a rifle and shooting at everything he see's ....I do like the fact that he's wanting to shoot and hunt, and dont see the point in making him feel less than included.
What I disagree with is some guy that sounds like an elitist snob attempting to epitomize his standards and "wisdom" at the expense of member's with 33 or 25 posts respectively. Relax... its only life....and nobody gets out alive.

I don't know if jraney worded his original post incorrectly, or if he meant that he literally wants to shoot anything that moves at long range. That said, it is EVERY responsible gun owners business when other gun owners give ammunition the the anti-gun lobby. That is exactly what jraney has done. The anti-gun lobby has made it their hobby to take things out of context and shed a dim light on gun owners around the world. But in this case, they don't need to take anything out of context. If you don't think they patrol these websites looking for exactly the kind of material that this thread started out with...you would be wrong.
JMHO

 

[LHSmith]

Gotta go with Nate and Tightneck on this. The "anything that moves as far as I can see" comment demonstrates irresponsibility.....and what type of hunter-ed course neglects the hunters responsibility to identify the target and only take shots at game one feels confident in making.
Secondly, for long distance you generally are better off with the heavier projectile,bullet) than the lighter one.
I suggest you become more familiar with your current arsenal and read as much as you can........it will give you a better insight as to what your next rifle should be.
Being financially challanged, you want the smallest cartridge that will fill your intended use....not to mention the recoil on those thermos bottle cartridges can be wicked.

 

[w123driver]

Get a gun chambered in 6.5x55mm Swedish Mauser. It is very flat, has moderate recoil and it will hit and kill anything human eye can see. Especially since you don't reload, several online retailers sell very good quality Prvi Partisan Serbian ammo in this cal. for cheap price,around $13 per 20 rounds). You can buy milsurplus FMJ for practicing for even cheaper price. There are modern guns available,Ruger, CZ American, Tikka). All are excellent quality and wont cost you a fortune. Or, you can buy Swedish Mauser for around $400. Some have good barrels and are terrific shooters. Just my $0.02

 

[jraney]

hey if some of you would pull your heads out of your butt you would understand almost everything has a season from crow to elk here in oklahoma and i have heard some of you all talk about the p-dogs and the distances of some of those shots so if it is wrong of me to ask what would be the best caliber for the money than i am sorry. but if you people would read the stinkin question you might understand that. and if any of you feel as if you need to teach me somethin then come on down here to oklahoma and and get to teachin.

 

[jraney]

thanks for your 2 pennies it is way better than anything nate has had to say that is for sure

 

[jraney]

hey just got through reading some other posts on the varmint page and you people want to talk about me shooting at long ranges and as far as i can see being bad for hunting well you should take a look at the post titled most explosive round for p-dogs or varmints. if you cannot answer the question that is asked then just shut up.

 

[30xs]

Maybe the original question should have read; I'm looking for a rifle that is capable of making a humane kill at extended ranges from a manufacturer that has a reputation for accuracy at a price that won't break the bank. I can make a suggestion on a rifle that will answer the questions above. I'd have to suggest the Stevens 200. It is really just a pre-accutrigger Savage. You can purchase the rifle for under $300 with a gray synthetic stock, a camoflauge stock model costs about $50 more. It is available in several calibers from .223 up to 300 win mag. Every one I have been around has shot exceptionally well with reloads, and around an inch with factory loads. It is not a high end rifle but is one that you can start with and upgrade as you go. The trigger can be upgrade with a rifle basix trigger. You can change the stock out if you choose. A Boyds stock that will fit the Savage will also fit Stevens, as long as you measure the action screws and order the proper action length stock. Cheap gun, accurate, upgrades are available as money permits, what more could you want. With that said, maybe you should make sure you word your questions so that it would not offend others. It will get you more helpful replies, as I have tried to do, without starting a online arguement. Tim

 

[jraney]

thanks for the advice i will definetly make sure i word it more suitable for those who tend to look for negatives rather than just answer the question. i had thought about the stevens but was not sure on the quality.

thanks
J

 

[30xs]

It is just the older savage with a new name. Since Savage has went to the accu-trigger on all their rifles the had to do something with the older designs to keep making money from it. The stock that is on the Stevens is the old mold they used for their pre-accutrigger Savages. Really smart move on Savage's part. Instead of having to close production line and throw any the money they had in old equiptment they decides to rename it and keep production, and offer a excellent budget rifle to the public.