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My mother and her family had their lives ruined by the Nazis .This radical extremism in this country has to be stopped at all cost .
 
Long ago the socialist/communist arm of the democratic party was controlling the narrative of the press and it's elected representatives. A big part was hiding the agenda, which is obvious, the removal of the U.S. Constitution. The democrats have quietly sold out(unions) to the U.N. and it's school education(indoctrination) program. That's why you see so many 20 something believing the "institutional racism" narrative placed on law enforcement, that and the ease of radicalisation through internet propaganda. Isis and the climate change groups fine tuned(through cellphones and metadata collection) identifying individuals who are easiest to mobilize.
 
As the boss stated, we ALL need to get out and vote and make sure everybody we love and care about that is old enough votes as well. If we don't act like we care what happens our younger ones will follow suite most definitely.

Secondly, something to think about. Yes we ourselves may be purchasing guns and storing them up for a day that may come that we have to use them. BUT, how about that other side that wants to cause us harm? Do we not think they are doing the same and/or even moreover getting financial help to obtain whatever they can ?

Bill,
I do understand your response, ( and yes) they could be getting "some help" to keep supplies at hand. However...we do not know this.
3 months ago I went to Gander Mt. To buy an M&P "easy" 9. The glass cabinets were full of handguns , all types & calibers.
The one I wanted was not, so....I ordered it through the sales rep. Went back 3 weeks later to see if it arrived.

In the meantime covid arrived. There was a waiting line to get to a sales rep at the gun counter. I was dumbfounded. Shelves and glass counters where handguns were shown...was empty.
So were the rifle racks. Most were waiting to sign up for CC license. My 9 had arrived and I left with it. All ammo shelves were empty with the exception of .22 rimfire, as were any holsters. This all took place in a matter of perhaps 3-4 weeks. Thus the reason for my original post.
 
Bill,
I do understand your response, ( and yes) they could be getting "some help" to keep supplies at hand. However...we do not know this.
3 months ago I went to Gander Mt. To buy an M&P "easy" 9. The glass cabinets were full of handguns , all types & calibers.
The one I wanted was not, so....I ordered it through the sales rep. Went back 3 weeks later to see if it arrived.

In the meantime covid arrived. There was a waiting line to get to a sales rep at the gun counter. I was dumbfounded. Shelves and glass counters where handguns were shown...was empty.
So were the rifle racks. Most were waiting to sign up for CC license. My 9 had arrived and I left with it. All ammo shelves were empty with the exception of .22 rimfire, as were any holsters. This all took place in a matter of perhaps 3-4 weeks. Thus the reason for my original post.

Yes Sir, There has been and continues to be record high sales of about everything gun related known to man and it does seem like the covid thing has and still is playing a part in the whole scheme of things. I agree with you whole-heartedly that we have no way of knowing exactly what is going on behind closed doors with these groups BUT, I don't think we should discount the thoughts and ideas that it very well could be happening and we definitely should keep our guard up and eyebrow peeled in any and every direction we may to see a sign in the future. Thanks for your respected reply.
 
Not worried in the least, every poll out in 2016 had Hillary as the winner too. But Joe's plans for firearms and their legal owners is something to be aware of.
All we can do is get out and vote and pray the election is not stolen or interrupted by violence.

Don't be worried but don't be dumb either people so soon forget. It's not like Trump crushed the devil by that much. Yes the polls had her winning and they were right she won the thing they poll the popular vote. They were only .8% off and she won the popular vote just not by as much as they predicted.
Also Trump won by 77,000 total votes over 5 swing states.
YES winning is winning, But he went against the WORST person ever. Biden is bad but not Hillary bad and they have Biden winning by like 12 points they only had HillDog winning by 3.2 points.
It's not even close to being in the bag.
 
Don't be worried but don't be dumb either people so soon forget. It's not like Trump crushed the devil by that much. Yes the polls had her winning and they were right she won the thing they poll the popular vote. They were only .8% off and she won the popular vote just not by as much as they predicted.
Also Trump won by 77,000 total votes over 5 swing states.
YES winning is winning, But he went against the WORST person ever. Biden is bad but not Hillary bad and they have Biden winning by like 12 points they only had HillDog winning by 3.2 points.
It's not even close to being in the bag.
My apologies if my comment implied that it's in the bag, that was not the point or the intent of my comment.
I'm not going to stress out on things just because the polls or the mainstream media say Biden's lead is whatever number the wheel landed on this week. That's not being dumb.
I haven't forgot just how close it was when Trump ran against Hillary either, or the specifics of his victory, just things sure do seem like a complete repeat of the 2016 elections.
 
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My apologies if my comment implied that it's in the bag, that was not the point or the intent of my comment.
I'm not going to stress out on things just because the polls or the mainstream media say Biden's lead is whatever number the wheel landed on this week. That's not being dumb.
I haven't forgot just how close it was when Trump ran against Hillary either, or the specifics of his victory, just things sure do seem like a complete repeat of the 2016 elections.

C'mon People...As I said earlier, this was never intended to be about politics. It was about no guns available at Gander MT. since the Covid struck us , and now ... elections, Hillary, and all this other stuff ? Read what the BOSS says about political threads on this site. Please...enough.
 
C'mon People...As I said earlier, this was never intended to be about politics. It was about no guns available at Gander MT. since the Covid struck us , and now ... elections, Hillary, and all this other stuff ? Read what the BOSS says about political threads on this site. Please...enough.
unfortunately a lot if not all of the gun and ammo shortage is due to the political and social environment at this point, it is what it is.
 
Joe the reason for guns and shooting related equipment disappearing from store shelves and internet retailers is only political. Pin it on what ever you want (example, Woo Han Flue), the root cause is political. Cannot understand your amazement.
 
Not just apathy. There are some on this forum suffering from TDS and open about it.
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That’s actually a liberal tactic. There are those who will troll forums like this for the sole purpose of arguing and getting threads shut down in order to suppress conservative speak. If you watch closely, many of them are very good antagonist and will get right up to, but not cross the line which will usually end up with someone taking the bait and retaliating which gets the thread locked.
 
Joe the reason for guns and shooting related equipment disappearing from store shelves and internet retailers is only political. Pin it on what ever you want (example, Woo Han Flue), the root cause is political. Cannot understand your amazement.

Thank you for your response. My amazement was simply... Why in Wi. , and not Florida? It seemed to me that people were attempting to protect what they had, and was no longer available because of the covid thing. That's about it folks...
 
That’s actually a liberal tactic. There are those who will troll forums like this for the sole purpose of arguing and getting threads shut down in order to suppress conservative speak. If you watch closely, many of them are very good antagonist and will get right up to, but not cross the line which will usually end up with someone taking the bait and retaliating which gets the thread locked.
I refer to long-standing contributors to the forum, active in shooting sports and in threads pertaining thereto, not to piker trolls. Any references to a particular pol are oblique but readily decipherable.
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Joe don't know your age, but all my life I have cultivated relationships with 2 local mom and pop type dealers. When things got short, as one of their regular customers, they kept me going. During the great primer shortage, they always had primers in the storage area, for their regular guys. Today the anonymity of the inter web, has kind of destroyed many of those relationships. Back in the day, a pound of powder and a 1000 primers, was a big deal to me. As my family matured, disposable income rose, and having been victimized, by a few politically related shortages, the size of my purchases grew. Today, the only area of vulnerability, I see in my hand loading inventory, is with bullets, and at that I have a few years supply. For me it took time, but I got there.
 
I took inventory the other day on the barrels I regularly shoot. Too burn them out I need 25,000 primers, roughly 130 lbs of powder, and a lot of bullets. I have enough brass. I need this on top of what I already have. If I had all of this I would not call myself a hoarder, I would call myself prepared.
 

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