"fixing" a shoulder

[grovey]

Catshooter, you have always tried to help out with my questions here and on other boards. If you need some 220 brass i'll send you some of these free. I have several 100 more new ones, but hated to see these not get used.

 

[BoydAllen]

I cast my vote with those that have said to toss the brass.

 

[fguffey]

I cast my vote with those that have said to toss the brass.

and I have no interest is siding and or polarizing. I do not have an interest in what he decides to do with the cases. I do believe it is important the OP understand the shoulder upset/bulged while bullets were being seated. I believe it is important the OP understands when crimping the cases should all be the same length and it is not always necessary to crimp bottle neck cases. I want all the bullet hold I can get, crimping can lesson bullet hold.

F. Guffey

 

[asauer]

I don't understand some people's desire for "all the bullet hold I can get". The swift isn't a heavy recoiling cartridge, and I'm guessing if it's a standard saami chamber there is plenty of bullet in the case for a good grip. There's only so much grip you can attain with brass spring back...

Why not put some super glue on your bullet before seating??? (jk don't do this)

Back on topic. I agree with others- probably best to trash this batch of brass. I know Norma is the best for the Swift (and expensive) but I've seen it come in stock every few months lately. It just sounds like more trouble than it's worth, and I'd be second-guessing myself every time I had a flier on paper.

 

[deadwooddick]

…and I'd be second-guessing myself every time I had a flier on paper.

And… every time I pulled the trigger. Take it to the recycler, recover "some" of your cost.

 

[grovey]

I sent some to catshooter. We'll see what his take is on them, but my gut says they'll be fine.

 

[CatShooter]

I sent some to catshooter. We'll see what his take is on them, but my gut says they'll be fine.

I just received grovey's .220 Swift cases.

A previous owner started to move the shoulders back to make a .220 Wilson Arrow (or some other wildcat based on the 220 Swift case), but never got past the first step. Probably didn't know what he was doing - none of the shoulders collapsed - but some have hydraulic dents from too much lube, which will blow right out on the first full pressure firing.

Getting these cases back to original is a piece of cake - Partially FL resize them to a hard crush (once I scrounge up a FL die), load a jammed bullet, and then put light oil on them before fire-forming them back to a straight .220 Swift. They were never fired. They are beautiful, brand new Norma cases...

Thanks grovey...

 

[asauer]

Glad it worked out for you.

By chance, are you the one I've seen on this or perhaps other forums who is a fan of 4007SSC in the swift? I have not found a better powder in mine- it's unfortunate that it's now discontinued.

 

[CatShooter]

Glad it worked out for you.

By chance, are you the one I've seen on this or perhaps other forums who is a fan of 4007SSC in the swift? I have not found a better powder in mine- it's unfortunate that it's now discontinued.

Yes I am... 4007 was a sleeper for a long time, and by the time big case varmint shooters discovered it, it was too late.

I think the new IMR 4451 looks like a grain for grain replacement, and it is supposed to be a much finer grain size, and some kinda anti-copper stuff in it.

So we might be in luck. I will try it in the spring.

 

[asauer]

I've got enough to finish off this barrel. I'll certainly keep an eye out for 4451. If I happen to see some, I'll give it a try.