ohlongarmisle
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Five coyotes went down hard,not shot.
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What general area of Ohio?
ohlongarmisle
Silver $$ Contributor
Northeast.
You probably just saved the lives of 50 fawns , GREAT JOB !
“what separates the experts versus the armatures”……
While I do agree with snowpro440 100 percent, and I also know this is going to get the messenger shot, I’m still going to say it anyway. 99% or more of the pictures anti-trapping and anti-hunting groups use for their ads come from posts like this. In four of the western states where I do depredation removal, body-gripping traps such as snares, leg-hold traps, and steel-jawed traps were outlawed because the voting masses were shown pictures like these. They throw in a couple of dogs or cats stuck in one, and its game over.
While many of us hunters and trappers enjoy seeing animals harvested and populations kept in check, the vast majority of people and voters nowadays do not.
Here is a list of the ten states that have already outlawed traps using the very tactics stated above:
Arizona
Colorado
New Mexico
Washington
California
Florida
Hawaii
Massachusetts
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Several other states already have anti trapping votes on their ballots upcoming.
I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade, and I do enjoy seeing people’s harvests. Sadly, posting them on the internet just gives anti-trapping and anti-hunting groups a free pot of gold to use against us. I know it’s unfortunate, but it is the absolute truth.
Again, I know we all like to see pictures of successful hunts and depredation removals, but posting them on online forums will eventually lead to the removal of our ability to do what we all enjoy and love.
If you need any examples to convince you, here are just a few of the many that use pictures that were shared on the internet hunting and trapping websites for use against it:
1: https://www.bornfreeusa.org/campaigns/trapping/the-anti-trapping-coalition/
2: Trap free Montana: https://trapfreemt.org
3: Anti trapping in Vermont: https://www.protectourwildlifevt.org/trapping
4: https://www.peta.org/issues/wildlife/cruel-wildlife-control/cruel-wildlife-trapping/
5: https://trapfreeamerica.org/information
6: https://wildearthguardians.org/wildlife-conservation/end-cruel-trapping/
7: https://wildlifeforall.us
While I do agree with snowpro440 100 percent, and I also know this is going to get the messenger shot, I’m still going to say it anyway. 99% or more of the pictures anti-trapping and anti-hunting groups use for their ads come from posts like this. In four of the western states where I do depredation removal, body-gripping traps such as snares, leg-hold traps, and steel-jawed traps were outlawed because the voting masses were shown pictures like these. They throw in a couple of dogs or cats stuck in one, and its game over.
While many of us hunters and trappers enjoy seeing animals harvested and populations kept in check, the vast majority of people and voters nowadays do not.
Here is a list of the ten states that have already outlawed traps using the very tactics stated above:
Arizona
Colorado
New Mexico
Washington
California
Florida
Hawaii
Massachusetts
New Jersey
Rhode Island
Several other states already have anti trapping votes on their ballots upcoming.
I don’t mean to rain on anyone’s parade, and I do enjoy seeing people’s harvests. Sadly, posting them on the internet just gives anti-trapping and anti-hunting groups a free pot of gold to use against us. I know it’s unfortunate, but it is the absolute truth.
Again, I know we all like to see pictures of successful hunts and depredation removals, but posting them on online forums will eventually lead to the removal of our ability to do what we all enjoy and love.
If you need any examples to convince you, here are just a few of the many that use pictures that were shared on the internet hunting and trapping websites for use against it:
1: https://www.bornfreeusa.org/campaigns/trapping/the-anti-trapping-coalition/
2: Trap free Montana: https://trapfreemt.org
3: Anti trapping in Vermont: https://www.protectourwildlifevt.org/trapping
4: https://www.peta.org/issues/wildlife/cruel-wildlife-control/cruel-wildlife-trapping/
5: https://trapfreeamerica.org/information
6: https://wildearthguardians.org/wildlife-conservation/end-cruel-trapping/
7: https://wildlifeforall.us
ohlongarmisle
Silver $$ Contributor
While I understand completely where you're coming from, pictures or not, they have an agenda; if they don't get them off the net, they'll stage them to bolster their message. If and when it comes to that in my state, that's when I become a lawbreaker, after all laws are meant to be broken and 100% are routinely.
Ohlongarmisle, I actually think what your doing is a GREAT help to both the overall wildlife and people in your area. Many of them may not even know the benefit you provide for them. All wildlife needs to be kept in check to maintain a healthy balance. (It also helps protect a lot of domestic animals.) I also agree with you whole heartedly that the anti-hunters/trappers have an agenda much bigger than just “saving animals”.
I just want to make sure we don’t make it easy on them. Having been involved in animal depredation (state, federal and private) for many years (bears, cougars, mountain goats, coyotes, raccoons….). I know the first rules are:
1. No pictures on the internet
2. No pictures on the internet
3. No pictures on the internet
4 . No pictures that leave your direct control.
5. The rest all usually involve what methods can be used, what type of arms and projectiles can be utilized and what items from the animal must be turned in for data collection and study purposes.
In the years before the world wide web it used to start at rule #4.
The average American will never know how many cougars and bears we’ve removed from golf courses, camp grounds, nature trails, farm areas, parks and forest to keep them safe and the animals removed or moved to safer locations for both.
I do hope you keep up the good work and can remain doing it in a way that doesn’t put you in jeopardy of silly rules put in place by people that have no idea what they are really trying to ”protect”.
Wish you all the best of luck on your upcoming adventures in the field.
I just want to make sure we don’t make it easy on them. Having been involved in animal depredation (state, federal and private) for many years (bears, cougars, mountain goats, coyotes, raccoons….). I know the first rules are:
1. No pictures on the internet
2. No pictures on the internet
3. No pictures on the internet
4 . No pictures that leave your direct control.
5. The rest all usually involve what methods can be used, what type of arms and projectiles can be utilized and what items from the animal must be turned in for data collection and study purposes.
In the years before the world wide web it used to start at rule #4.
The average American will never know how many cougars and bears we’ve removed from golf courses, camp grounds, nature trails, farm areas, parks and forest to keep them safe and the animals removed or moved to safer locations for both.
I do hope you keep up the good work and can remain doing it in a way that doesn’t put you in jeopardy of silly rules put in place by people that have no idea what they are really trying to ”protect”.
Wish you all the best of luck on your upcoming adventures in the field.
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