first build need suggestions (med range .270)

[mattri]

Have decided on building a .270 for target/varmint shooting out to 5-600 yards.

I understand the limited bullet selection and that other calibers are more popular for this kind of shooting.

Plan at the moment is to use a trued Savage action with a 26" heavy barrel in a SSS Varminter or similar stock with a SSS trigger.

Questions:

1) 26" barrel but what twist? many have reccomended 1:9-1:10 twist but after looking on Hart, Lilja, Shilen, McGowan and Douglas websites they only offer a 1:10 twist. Is this going to be fast enough for the 150, 160 or even 180grn bullets? Want to shoot the lighter 100-115grns as well but will give priority to the heavier bullets.

2) Stock- SSS has a very nice Varminter stock that looks like it will work well, are there others I should be looking at? Would prefer to stick with a heavy laminate, non-thumbhole.

3) Action- SSS seems to be the go-to resource for Savage builds. What kind of questions do I need to be asking to get the product I want without wasting their time or sounding like a donkey's rear?

Never built/modified a rifle before, not looking to reinvent the wheel just trying to build a decent shooter without breaking the bank or tripping up on the typical rookie mistakes. Any and all info welcome, Matt.

 

[therifler]

you may want to check and see what bullet weights are offered . i have never found any 277 bullets over 150 gr. i know there might be some in very limited supply but i have never seen any . the only company that i have seen offering any match bullets is Sierra. please inform me if you find any heavier ones. T.R.

 

[mattri]

Thanks for the reply. Again, the .270 isn't known as target capable round but there are as number of quality, high bc bullets available.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=619128
150grns .531 bc.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=568943
150grn .525 bc.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=740550
135grns .488 bc.

These type of bullets are primarily what I will be using.

However, if possible I would also like to use:

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=871829

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=368634

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=409681

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=227860

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=573016

I realize this is a pretty big spread (70 grns) an if need be I will choose the heavier bullets over the lighter.

Will a 1:9 cover this spread?

Who makes a decent 26" heavy barrel in 1:9?

 

[c3006]

I think the 1-10 would cover that spread better than 1-9 JMHO c

 

[plamondacheq]

I second the 1-10 twist , I was able to get consistant .48" groups with mine.

Check out my previous build at http://tcsr.wetpaint.com/page/Members+Projects.

I've since sold this rifle and that sale is currently funding my 6br build.

 

[therifler]

as i have seen in your reference sites the heavier bullets are hunting tips . i guess i must be to target minded . the bullets that are listed 6.8 i believe they are intended to be shot from REm. 6.8 cal. which is a .277 but intended for slower vel. that being said. 1-10 twist is the old stand by for 270 win. T.R.

 

[bigngreen]

Sharp Shooter Supply will hook you up right!!! I think your trying to play to large of a field, the Woodleigh would need something in the 1-8 twist more than likely but that will be aggressive for a 90-110gr bullets.
The best in between twist is the 1-11, shoots 140gr Bergers real nice for targets and will shoot 110gr bullets also, very good for varmints.

I shoot a 270 WSM in the manner your talking, the 140 Berger is super out at a 1000yrds and the 110gr V-Max will hone out any varmint you can think of.
I'm setting up a barrel for my Savage 270 WSM to shoot the 169.5gr Wildcat bullet that we should see in production in about two months, I'll twist it at 1-9 in a Lawton barrel or Mcgowen if they still offer it in 1-9, they did until the most recent web site change.

Good luck, the .277 cal is way over looked but the up side is there's never a shortage of components.

 

[mattri]

Thanks for al the good tips.

I've sent a number of e-mails to SSS without a response.

Who else should I be talking to about this project?

 

[mattri]

bump

 

[Ron10x]

The bullet selection as you said is not too good in .270. Since you are buying a barrel you might consider a 6.5 - 06 by necking down your 270 brass.

 

[mattri]

Interesting suggestion, I'll have to check it out. Thanks, Matt.

 

[mattri]

Still no response from SSS.

 

[trappst]

SSS is a small shop and Fred doesn't get to answer email all that often. If you go to the SSS website, there should be a time during the week when you can call to get technical advice.

On a side note, you might want to look at Joel Russo stocks. Not sure what his current prices are but he makes some stunning stocks.

http://russoriflestocks.com/

 

[mattri]

Thanks for the reply, I've looked at Russo's work and it looks great, would like to see some prices listed.