They are fine on groundhogs, foxes, and coyotes but I definitely would not use them on deer.Well I already have special loads worked up and all for each rifle and purpose, but again this is just just basically all purpose ammo just to have on had for whatever. Something better then bulk but nothing optimized or whatever.
But yeah both bolt and semi auto but about every thing I shoot runs off of AR mags, at least in 5.55/.223. Don't think we have anything slower then a 9 twist , mainly 1-7/1-8 .
I was considering the Vmaxs but honestly not sure how they would far on bigger game due to the fact their varmit bullets.then again we head or neck shit about everything so in that case that explosive ness might do good