Favorite Bipod for F/TR
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Have a look at the Mystic Precision MPOD.
What I designed, use and sell.
Seems to be working for a bunch of shooters around the world.
Helped shooters reset a few NRA records recently too.
If weight is an issue, the MPOD is as light as it gets (lighter then a swivel Harris with the same elevation range). A little over 13 oz as mounted in the picture.
Also a cradle style bipod which really helps in reducing torque and hop.
When set up properly, it simply tracks backwards.
Jerry
mysticplayer said:
Have a look at the Mystic Precision MPOD.
What I designed, use and sell.
Seems to be working for a bunch of shooters around the world.
Helped shooters reset a few NRA records recently too.
If weight is an issue, the MPOD is as light as it gets (lighter then a swivel Harris with the same elevation range). A little over 13 oz as mounted in the picture.
Also a cradle style bipod which really helps in reducing torque and hop.
When set up properly, it simply tracks backwards.
Jerry
How much for the mystic?
http://www.mysticprecision.com/wp/1709/mystic-precision-ftr-mpod-1lb-installed/
INSTALLED WEIGHT 12.8ozs. Harris BR – S 6-9″ weighs 13.8ozs on the same scale. That makes the MPOD one of the lightest pods you can use on an F class rifle. More weight for barrels, scopes and stocks.
ONLY $225 PLUS SHIP AND TAX. International sales available.
- See more at: http://www.mysticprecision.com/wp/1709/mystic-precision-ftr-mpod-1lb-installed/#sthash.MvI34imS.dpuf
INSTALLED WEIGHT 12.8ozs. Harris BR – S 6-9″ weighs 13.8ozs on the same scale. That makes the MPOD one of the lightest pods you can use on an F class rifle. More weight for barrels, scopes and stocks.
ONLY $225 PLUS SHIP AND TAX. International sales available.
- See more at: http://www.mysticprecision.com/wp/1709/mystic-precision-ftr-mpod-1lb-installed/#sthash.MvI34imS.dpuf
I've tried a lot of bipods (Harris, Sinclair, Pheonix, Remple, Flex to name a few). 
I now have a Duplin, but haven't even been out to shoot with it yet. To me, the issue with the Flex is the varying amount of degree you need to alter your shoulder pressure to fine tune the vertical. Someone mentioned this as a positive but in my opinion, if you value consistency your amount of shoulder pressure should be the same every shot. The Mystic looked appealing until I saw that it has no canting adjustment (other than to manipulate the leg height separately). If there was a cant adjustment, I would take a look at one.
My preferred bipod is the Remple...now that is the most solid bipod there is....but...you pay for it in weight. I recently changed my rig slightly which necessitated swapping out the Remple for the Duplin.
Your mileage may vary.
I now have a Duplin, but haven't even been out to shoot with it yet. To me, the issue with the Flex is the varying amount of degree you need to alter your shoulder pressure to fine tune the vertical. Someone mentioned this as a positive but in my opinion, if you value consistency your amount of shoulder pressure should be the same every shot. The Mystic looked appealing until I saw that it has no canting adjustment (other than to manipulate the leg height separately). If there was a cant adjustment, I would take a look at one.
My preferred bipod is the Remple...now that is the most solid bipod there is....but...you pay for it in weight. I recently changed my rig slightly which necessitated swapping out the Remple for the Duplin.
Your mileage may vary.
whysman said:
When setting up at your position, a bubble level ensures the rifle is level before you get into position. See other post.
With a suitable base under the feet, the MPOD doesn't twist under recoil. You do not need to reset the cant which is all too common with many bipods. Most of the current MPOD using FTR shooters are shooting 185 to 215gr bullets so torque is happening just like any other rifle.
Several of my current users commented how they were constantly resetting the level and tightening their other bipod. With the MPOD, they could just concentrate on getting the crosshair back into the center and prepping for the next shot.
Same as you would with a pedestal rest. Yes, this was something I was hoping to get in the design as I come from shooting a lot of bench and hate wobbly rests like a Harris.
Makes for fast follow up shots too which was handy during the Worlds Team Match.
See pic above - I use a thick nap carpet over a stair thread - hard flexible rubber mat. Once you lay this down, it stays put, doesn't sink even on grass and ensures you are always shooting off the same surface. Rocks and stones have no affect on the tracking cause the feet never "feel" them.
Pic was on a firing point at Raton, NM last Aug. Those who have shot there know all about the range surface
First the design was all about pushing the limits of weight vs stability/tracking. A nice by product was very nice handling AND no "tipping".
We have thought about designing in a cant feature where a lever can be used to loosen and tighten. We have had others comment that this was a deal breaker for them. The problem is to ensure that it doesn't jeopardise the stability that is there now.
The last thing we want to do is create the same problem plaguing other designs. Odds are it will go into testing this spring/summer as we are looking at a much larger market in the varminting and LR hunting sector. Here a cant feature would be very handy.
But then, Harris still sells a ton of non swivel bipods so ?????
Also, I strongly feel that having a long forend to put that bipod far forward does an amazing job at improving tracking and eliminating hop during recoil. The rifle above, just pushes back and that's that.
With the bipod so far forward, reaching a lever would be near impossible for the average arm length so.... How would you use the lever anyways? As you can see in the pic, there is no way I am going to reach that bipod while in the shooting position.
Nice pic just after the shot went off - see puff of the muzzle blast. As you can see, not a whole lot going on with the rifle.
For F class, it will take a bit more time to set up but once set, you can concentrate on the shooting. Never had any time issues during the set up phase in Raton. There was always time to look around, chat with the shooter I was paired with, and wonder if the flags would ever make up their minds...
Seems to be working for a number of winning shooters around the world. Funny thing, from the existing users, no one has asked me to add a cant feature.
Jerry
I certainly won't argue that the design is flawed as many seem to use it with great success (including the current world champion) but everyone's rig and shooting style are different so I remain hesitant.
Two things you mention above that I wanted to comment on. I have shot 200s/215s and saw pretty decent results. Being that I am a BC fool (maybe just a fool), I wanted to shoot the 230s which is what I shoot now and do so with a fairly stout load (2515 FPS in a .308). You wouldn't think there would be much difference in shooting style and torque experienced between those bullets but for comparable loads (pushing the 200s vs. pushing the 230s) the difference in the 230 is noticeable. I rarely had to adjust cant when shooting the 200s, a little more with 215s but twice as much with the 230s. A "wiser" man would have gone back to the 200s/215s but my barrel is throated for the 230s and I am a stubborn, stubborn man!
On the other note (bipod position), my limited experience has shown less movement when the bipod is placed just forward of weight midpoint. This also has the additional benefit of allowing me to adjust with left hand (mariners wheel for elevation and cant lever).
I remain intrigued by your design and would buy one if you offer a trial period of some sort. I have used enough bipods and have recently sold one (and will reluctantly probably be parting with my Remple soon). I just don't want to become a bipod collector!
mysticplayer said:
Two things you mention above that I wanted to comment on. I have shot 200s/215s and saw pretty decent results. Being that I am a BC fool (maybe just a fool), I wanted to shoot the 230s which is what I shoot now and do so with a fairly stout load (2515 FPS in a .308). You wouldn't think there would be much difference in shooting style and torque experienced between those bullets but for comparable loads (pushing the 200s vs. pushing the 230s) the difference in the 230 is noticeable. I rarely had to adjust cant when shooting the 200s, a little more with 215s but twice as much with the 230s. A "wiser" man would have gone back to the 200s/215s but my barrel is throated for the 230s and I am a stubborn, stubborn man!
On the other note (bipod position), my limited experience has shown less movement when the bipod is placed just forward of weight midpoint. This also has the additional benefit of allowing me to adjust with left hand (mariners wheel for elevation and cant lever).
I remain intrigued by your design and would buy one if you offer a trial period of some sort. I have used enough bipods and have recently sold one (and will reluctantly probably be parting with my Remple soon). I just don't want to become a bipod collector!
I am very new at this, and have limited experience (Emphasis on limited), but I believe the Joy-Pod will soon be among the "Favs" for TR shooters. It is smooth and silly fast to adjust.
I only have limited time with a prototype (production has a number of improvements).
In the spring of this year (April) we should see TR shooters having real world experiences with production models. It is truly easy to use.
I only have limited time with a prototype (production has a number of improvements).
In the spring of this year (April) we should see TR shooters having real world experiences with production models. It is truly easy to use.
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whysman said:
Shooting the 230's is certainly more demanding but I think the MPOD is up to the task. My shoulder will not tolerate the increased recoil so not in my cards.
If you are interested in a trial, please send me an email at info@mysticprecision.com
There will be a US dealer shortly so a lot easier to do this in the near future.
It is not easy to try moving any bipod that far forward cause common stocks just don't reach out that far but there is a significant improvement for me.
Testing with standard sized stocks recently really highlighted how much better the long forend is working for me
Let me know...
Jerry
the torque have a major effect on a bipod. When i started with the StarShooter, i was slightly loosing cant and though it was the bipod...in fact, the right bipod foot was digging in the soft ground shot after shot due to the torque...Then i decided to use a proper carpet under the feets, and with the cam lock on those Star Shooter, it hold cant even with 215 bullets, NO WAY that thing is gonna move.
I had the great chance to spend a whole day shooting with Mr Mid Thompkins at the FCWC in Raton. He was using a joy-pod and i had plenty of time to look at it work. It's was clear that torque was putshing the crosshair out after each shot. Of course it's easy to put back in the 10 ring with co-ax. Like i mention earlier, with proper body position, i dont even get out of 10 ring after each shot, and then manage to shoot way faster.
dont get me wrong, the joy-pod is an outstanding product that i would like to try
I had the great chance to spend a whole day shooting with Mr Mid Thompkins at the FCWC in Raton. He was using a joy-pod and i had plenty of time to look at it work. It's was clear that torque was putshing the crosshair out after each shot. Of course it's easy to put back in the 10 ring with co-ax. Like i mention earlier, with proper body position, i dont even get out of 10 ring after each shot, and then manage to shoot way faster.
dont get me wrong, the joy-pod is an outstanding product that i would like to try
ScottyB said:mysticplayer said:
Nice pic just after the shot went off - see puff of the muzzle blast.
Where do I send the bill for licensing the picture Jerry?
As others have mentioned I am very partial to the Star Shooter. It's the most stable of all the Remple-style bipods that I've handled.
Scott
That is a great pic for sure. I am sure we can settle up when I come out to Connaught in the future.
The Star Shooters is certainly another great bipod in a Remple style for sure.
Seb, great looking bipod and all the best with your product launch.
Jerry
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