F-TR Bipod Placement

[alamo308]

Is there any science to locating the bipod? Assuming a full-floated barrel, does the bipod location affect barrel lash positively or negatively, by having the bipod too close to muzzle or too close to receiver?
Or is bipod placement an art, simply based on trying different locations, rifle balance, bullet weight, leg height, etc.?
What is the benefit of placing the bipod feet on a piece of board or similar material? Slipperyness for recoil?
???

 

[seb]

Good question, and I'm anxious to know other's opinions.

- I don't think there is particular "science" to locating a bipod.
- Stock plays a big role on this i.e. the rigidity, length, material(s) and shape/style of the stock.
- What work to "John" probably don't work (doesn't necessarily work) for "Jack".
- Different shooting style could give different result i.e. firm grip / light grip / free recoil.

Shooting off of a bipod, the bipod is your front fulcrum.
To me, regardless of the stock design & rifle balance I always want my bipod as far forward AS POSSIBLE.
Also to put my shoulder as STRAIGHT & SQUARE as possible.

With a piece of board or mat, (briefly) you get a CONSISTENT base underneath the feet.

seb.

 

[mysticplayer]

For me, bipod placement is really important and has improved my tracking substantially.

As Seb has suggested, there many factors that have to be implemented to get that bipod out there.

How far? for me, I am beyond mid point on a 30" barrel. Sorry, not near my rifle to measure. Simply put, it is further ahead then any readily available stock. There is no way to reach the bipod while in position. I make my own stocks.

Like a top fuel dragster, I feel the longer "wheelbase" keeps the rifle tracking straighter with no hop. I have compared the same barreled action on standard stocks. Big difference for me.

When I designed the MPOD, the need to position the bipod beyond reach while in position allowed me to simplify the design and focus on geometry more for tracking and keep weight way down.

If you want to use a Remple type bipod or a new Seb Joy Pod, that overly long forend will make adjustments far more difficult. So, there is always a compromise.

So how does this all work? Recently I have been testing 230gr Bergers in my FTR. With my new stock, I can watch my hits at 600m and 1000yds. There is very little lateral movement when I am in proper position and there is no hop or bounce.

Try and position your bipod at various locations and see how that affects your follow through. Is long forends necessary? NO but it sure helps.

Good luck.

Jerry

 

[seymour fish]

Jerry, Do you have a null, or dampened effect if you ring the barrel with a sharp hammer blow, at your bipod and rear bag placement ? Seymour

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

I try to keep my bipod as far forward as I can as I believe it helps settle the rifle, however there are things to consider when it comes to firing points.

For instance, at Bayou Rifles the firing line is on a mound and you have to be careful not to set the rifle too far forwards as you may have to crank up the legs quite high. It like to have the legs at about midpoint or lower as I find everything a little more stiff that way. So you adjust your position for that.

At Raton, the firing line is flat and I believe the target line is set higher than the firing line so you are shooting upwards, or so it seemed to me. I had the bipod extended more than usual, but I got used to it. I did find that I would have a crink in the neck after each relay in Raton, something that does not happen to me usually. In fact at the class, I was on the mat behind my rifle for 90+ minutes, shooting and talking, and when I got up my only complaint was a massive thirst. I do love my new mat also; that helped quite a bit.

So, bottom line for me is to keep the bipod as far forward as possible unless the firing point is really bad.

 

[mysticplayer]

Jerry, Do you have a null, or dampened effect if you ring the barrel with a sharp hammer blow, at your bipod and rear bag placement ? Seymour

Sorry, but do not understand what you are asking?

Bayou Shooter, as I am in Canada we are almost always shooting on mounds or inclined firing points. You definitely need a different set up then on a flat firing point.

I have various heights for my rear bag and legs for the MPOD to account for this varied terrain. Nothing worst then not getting comfy while shooting.

consider a much "thinner" rear bar or a stock so that the height from comb to ground is less. Hope this helps

Jerry

 

[ryanjay11]

Jerry, Do you have a null, or dampened effect if you ring the barrel with a sharp hammer blow, at your bipod and rear bag placement ? Seymour

Put down the hammer and slowly walk away from the rifle....

 

[Down South]

Jerry, Do you have a null, or dampened effect if you ring the barrel with a sharp hammer blow, at your bipod and rear bag placement ? Seymour

Put down the hammer and slowly walk away from the rifle....

;D

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

Bayou Shooter, as I am in Canada we are almost always shooting on mounds or inclined firing points. You definitely need a different set up then on a flat firing point.

I have various heights for my rear bag and legs for the MPOD to account for this varied terrain. Nothing worst then not getting comfy while shooting.

consider a much "thinner" rear bar or a stock so that the height from comb to ground is less. Hope this helps

Jerry

Yes, I realize you're in Canada. I used to shoot at Connaught over 30 years ago, and I suspect there might have been some changes there since that time. But maybe not. I remember pair firing but as I remember, it wasn't so much a mound as a swell. Of course, this was decades before F-Class. If I make it there in 2017, I'm sure I can adjust.