F-Class now has it's own Rules Book (2024)

[TylerFromMS]

FYI the rules are never in enforced unless a competitor files a protest. We do not have anyone walking up and down the line looking for violations. For there to be an infraction of the rules another competitor needs to document the infraction and file a protest. Then the match director or Jury will decide if it is truly an infraction. If they deem it an infraction then that competitor will be disqualified.

Can you face the accuser so that you can laugh and point when no rules were violated?

 

[Turbulent Turtle]

FYI the rules are never in enforced unless a competitor files a protest. We do not have anyone walking up and down the line looking for violations. For there to be an infraction of the rules another competitor needs to document the infraction and file a protest. Then the match director or Jury will decide if it is truly an infraction. If they deem it an infraction then that competitor will be disqualified.

Unless it's a safety violation, of course.

But to your point about equipment, some matches will tech the equipment before, during or after the match and take measures when weight of equipment or width of fore end on F-Open rifles, are out of specs. In XTC, they will check trigger pull weight.

 

[Herzo]

I'm gonna be that guy... FTR should be limited to rifles, bipods, etc, like this, but that's another thread for another time.


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12 pages and only LVLAaron touched on on this.
CIHPRS (and perhaps others) has instituted a class called F-Practical which I am planning to attempt to shoot this year.
Rules are simple and parallel AR Tactical:
1. 18.18# with all accessories
2. Harris style bipod
3. Rear bag (no bunny ears).
4. Any caliber.

F/TR & F-Open are belly benchrest.

 

[Medic505]

12 pages and only LVLAaron touched on on this.
CIHPRS (and perhaps others) has instituted a class called F-Practical which I am planning to attempt to shoot this year.
Rules are simple and parallel AR Tactical:
1. 18.18# with all accessories
2. Harris style bipod
3. Rear bag (no bunny ears).
4. Any caliber.

F/TR & F-Open are belly benchrest.

So, you are going to an F Class match to shoot Belly PRS?

I hope you at least have something on your rifle to catch brass and not throw it on the shooter next to you.

 

[Monte F]

12 pages and only LVLAaron touched on on this.
CIHPRS (and perhaps others) has instituted a class called F-Practical which I am planning to attempt to shoot this year.
Rules are simple and parallel AR Tactical:
1. 18.18# with all accessories
2. Harris style bipod
3. Rear bag (no bunny ears).
4. Any caliber.

F/TR & F-Open are belly benchrest.

On which target face?

 

[LVLAaron]

On which target face?

Same target

 

[Herzo]

To my knowledge we will be using the F targets. I don't really care since I only compete against myself.
Shooting belly PRS is perfect for those of us in our 80's.
Will be using a bolt gun so you won't have to duck!

 

[Heman]

The reason we started F-Practical (idea of Bob Petillo) was for people to be able to just show up slap a bipod on a rifle and shoot and have a class they could compete in and not have to compete against the high dollar F-Open and F-T/R guns. The goal is getting people on the range. But by nature people want to compete. If they see they have to spend $4000 or more to compete it turns them away. Saw it today with a new shooters. Signed up was trying to shoot F-Open with a Cladwell rest, saw the Seb's, Rodzillas, and the other F-Open rests, then when he saw another guy shooting F-Practical he was like yup that is what I'm going to do. Which ironically what F-Class at Ft. Knox and Atterbury looked like for the first 3 or 4 years untill all the fancy gear started showing up. Are scores lower, yeah they are but people have fun, and they come out which is what we want.

F-Practical is shot on the F-Class targets for mid and long range, and it is treated as the 3rd division for F-class and we also allow suppressors if people want to run them.

Edit: Scores are lower but we have some guys that can/have shot in the mid upper 190s shooting in F-Prac in both LR and MR

 

[davidjoe]

In October, I felt I had to photograph this front rest. It was used in a 600 yard midrange match, 15 x 3.

The shooter on that date used a 6 Dasher. The rifle had belonged to a high level competitor in Houston and a regular at Bayou for years, who was thinning his comp rifles.

The Dasher cleaned that match. It did not clean that match because of the rest. The shooter had previously used it in matches with different guns, where I personally suspected the rest was a weak link in his set up.

Evidently I was incorrect and it was the gun(s), not the rest, and not the shooter.

Rests really shouldn’t intimidate would-be shooters. With or without them, this game is doable. We might even over think their contribution, sometimes. This rest has no co-axial handle. I believe he used a pinch bag on a Benchrest style stock. The forend has no stop. The side bolsters cannot be tightened. I believe it even wobbled a little bit. Didn’t matter, clean and great x count, within a few X’s of the club record.

 

[LVLAaron]

This here is the only rest a real man needs.

 

[Evan]

In October, I felt I had to photograph this front rest. It was used in a 600 yard midrange match, 15 x 3.

The shooter on that date used a 6 Dasher. The rifle had belonged to a high level competitor in Houston and a regular at Bayou for years, who was thinning his comp rifles.

The Dasher cleaned that match. It did not clean that match because of the rest. The shooter had previously used it in matches with different guns, where I personally suspected the rest was a weak link in his set up.

Evidently I was incorrect and it was the gun(s), not the rest, and not the shooter.

Rests really shouldn’t intimidate would-be shooters. With or without them, this game is doable. We might even over think their contribution, sometimes. This rest has no co-axial handle. I believe he used a pinch bag on a Benchrest style stock. The forend has no stop. The side bolsters cannot be tightened. I believe it even wobbled a little bit. Didn’t matter, clean and great x count, within a few X’s of the club record.


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Hey! I’ve got one of those! I believe my has “C.S.S.” stamped into the base. Easiest way to adjust height is to pick it up and spin the base. The top just slides on and is held with a set screw. I used some wraps of tape on the main shaft to tighten the fit up a little. I keep it around for sighting in rifles with round forearms.

To your comment, I think we all can get a little far removed from simpler forms of shooting and equipment and forget what is achievable with them. When I step back to those methods with my current skillset, I get WAY better results than I used to and it isn’t as big of a handicap as I thought it was when I replaced it with better stuff.

 

[Highpower-FClass]

This here is the only rest a real man needs.

Fixed it for you

 

[LVLAaron]

I've already got suspenders grandpa.

I'm just goofin

 

[JEFFPPC]

About a 10 years ago a match director told something very true. The more rules you have the more arguments and fights you have. Smart guy.

 

[Rocketvapor]

Anyone takes advantage of the
Bipod And/or Sling Rule

 

[Dimner]

I'm gonna be that guy... FTR should be limited to rifles, bipods, etc, like this, but that's another thread for another time.


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You know. I've actually have been wondering if there is a competition format like this. I think it's about the only format I would be interested in

 

[swd]

This here is the only rest a real man needs.

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The new FTR

 

[Dimner]

So, you are going to an F Class match to shoot Belly PRS?

I hope you at least have something on your rifle to catch brass and not throw it on the shooter next to you.

This cracked me up. I love the idea of F practical and I support it ... But still this was a pretty sick burn.

 

[Dimner]

In October, I felt I had to photograph this front rest. It was used in a 600 yard midrange match, 15 x 3.

The shooter on that date used a 6 Dasher. The rifle had belonged to a high level competitor in Houston and a regular at Bayou for years, who was thinning his comp rifles.

The Dasher cleaned that match. It did not clean that match because of the rest. The shooter had previously used it in matches with different guns, where I personally suspected the rest was a weak link in his set up.

Evidently I was incorrect and it was the gun(s), not the rest, and not the shooter.

Rests really shouldn’t intimidate would-be shooters. With or without them, this game is doable. We might even over think their contribution, sometimes. This rest has no co-axial handle. I believe he used a pinch bag on a Benchrest style stock. The forend has no stop. The side bolsters cannot be tightened. I believe it even wobbled a little bit. Didn’t matter, clean and great x count, within a few X’s of the club record.


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They shouldn't intimidate, but the fact is when new people look at the equipment needed to compete, a large portion will shake their heads and go back to ringing steel in a field. And even more when they learn about all the sponsorships.

 

[Dos XX]

1) So does the weight of the sticks have to be included in the weight of the rifle? They're not technically
attached to one another, you see.
2) Can we cover the sticks with slick tape to facilitate easier movement of the rifle stock during recoil?
3) What about rollers? Can we have some of those?
4) How will the new bipod work on a covered range that has a poured concrete slab?
5) Are the new bipods limited to a specific kind of wood?
6) Any limitations on height and width?
7) Does the joint in the middle of the "X" have to a certain kind of metal?
8) Is there a weight limit on the hammer used to pound the sticks in to the ground?
9) Is a wooden "X" with a joystick legal?

This is exactly how new rules problems are created. LOL

Just don't use carpet!