F-Class now has it's own Rules Book (2024)

[swd]

Yes, yes, it is. And a newly coined phrase in F-Class rules. I'm not too sure that the bone fide "spirit of F-Class" is that one cannot commence to compete in F-Class until he is at least 70 years of age? Far-fetched, you say. Think about it.

I’ll have to go into hibernation for 12 more years, LOL. I better stock up on more components, God only knows what they will cost then!

 

[Bill Clifton]

The score bench matches around here are essentially that.
One has two rifle classes, bench and f.

are they for score only or group size too? I for one like the F class scoring format but I have spinal fusions that prevent me from shooting prone. I'd love an F bench category.

 

[kzin]

are they for score only or group size too? I for one like the F class scoring format but I have spinal fusions that prevent me from shooting prone. I'd love an F bench category.

score only
2 10 shot targets twice, so very much like an 'f-bench' match

unsanctioned, made up their rules on their own

 

[Stray8]

Just out of curiosity for you guys that shoot regional or national matches, have any of you seen no free recoil enforced prior to this rule iteration?

 

[memilanuk]

Just out of curiosity for you guys that shoot regional or national matches, have any of you seen no free recoil enforced prior to this rule iteration?

No, and as mentioned (several times) already... it's not a new rule.

 

[Stray8]

No, and as mentioned (several times) already... it's not a new rule.

I never said the rule was new, however, it is a new statement that removes ambiguity. Fired from the shoulder is ambiguous as has been discussed in the other threads over the years. I’m just wondering if it has ever been enforced. If it has been in place and never enforced, especially at the major matches, then it can be reasoned that either no one shoots free recoil or it was an acceptable practice based on the common interpretation of “from the shoulder”.

I can recall that one of those threads had someone who had shot and won major matches that they have shot free recoil and never seen it enforced. That is just one point of view.

 

[Heman]

I never said the rule was new, however, it is a new statement that removes ambiguity. Fired from the shoulder is ambiguous as has been discussed in the other threads over the years. I’m just wondering if it has ever been enforced. If it has been in place and never enforced, especially at the major matches, then it can be reasoned that either no one shoots free recoil or it was an acceptable practice based on the common interpretation of “from the shoulder”.

I can recall that one of those threads had someone who had shot and won major matches that they have shot free recoil and never seen it enforced. That is just one point of view.

It isn't a new statement literally Matt S. hit it on the head. They literally took all the existing rules from the HP book and put them in the F-Class book, nothing has been re-written or added. Fired from the shoulder was always there, just people are now aware of it.

 

[Rank Amateur]

It isn't a new statement literally Matt S. hit it on the head. They literally took all the existing rules from the HP book and put them in the F-Class book, nothing has been re-written or added. Fired from the shoulder was always there, just people are now aware of it.

I'm not arguing whether "from the shoulder" appeared previously ("...the butt of the rifle must be held against the front of the shoulder...", however, language has certainly been re-written and added. The words "free recoil" do not appear anywhere in the 2023 version of the High-Power rules book.

 

[kzin]

I never said the rule was new, however, it is a new statement that removes ambiguity. Fired from the shoulder is ambiguous as has been discussed in the other threads over the years. I’m just wondering if it has ever been enforced. If it has been in place and never enforced, especially at the major matches, then it can be reasoned that either no one shoots free recoil or it was an acceptable practice based on the common interpretation of “from the shoulder”.

I can recall that one of those threads had someone who had shot and won major matches that they have shot free recoil and never seen it enforced. That is just one point of view.

The rules were ambiguous AND have been resolved in the opposite direction by ICFRA.

 

[Dave M.]

In Cortina’s recent podcast with Speedy and Gary Costello, he mentioned that the new F class rules specifically forbid the use of a digital level (ie the Send-It MR3 level by MDT). He even goes so far as to say they basically called it out by name. I have reviewed all 74 pages of the new rule book, and I can’t find any evidence of this. Please correct me if I am overlooking it, and direct me to the specific page and passage that states this rule.
Dave

 

[F Class John]

In Cortina’s recent podcast with Speedy and Gary Costello, he mentioned that the new F class rules specifically forbid the use of a digital level (ie the Send-It MR3 level by MDT). He even goes so far as to say they basically called it out by name. I have reviewed all 74 pages of the new rule book, and I can’t find any evidence of this. Please correct me if I am overlooking it, and direct me to the specific page and passage that states this rule.
Dave

It was in the rules that were in effect at the time of that interview when F Class was in the High Power rules. That verbiage regarding digital levels appears to be missing from the dedicated F Class rule book that was released after that interview.
It's still in the High Power rules

 

[Dave M.]

No, and as mentioned (several times) already... it's not a new rule.

And virtually unenforceable. Wear a sweatshirt. Tape a 1” thick piece of the softest foam you can find and you are in perfect compliance with the rules. Easy work around. I don’t shoot free recoil, but good luck enforcing that rule.
Dave

 

[Dave M.]

It was in the rules that were in effect at the time of that interview when F Class was in the High Power rules. That verbiage regarding digital levels appears to be missing from the dedicated F Class rule book that was released after that interview.
It's still in the High Power rules View attachment 1527680

But still apparently legal for F class shooting, would you agree??
Dave

 

[Ned Ludd]

Who can really say what's legal now?

Edited to remove incorrect information.

I have compared the 2024 copies I have with the 2023 and 2020 versions. The 2024 version was more than just a simple cut and paste job from previous versions of the Highpower Rulebook. There were numerous typos and grammatical errors in the initial version of the 2024 F-Class Rulebook that made it online. Further, there appears to be language missing that I thought had already been agreed upon by the Rules Committee. For example, the "new" 2024 section regarding F-TR bipods/carpet/boards does appear to be a cut and paste job from a previous version that was written before the new language was agreed upon following the Great Carpet Debacle. Altogether, my impression was that the new document was cobbled together without sufficient attention or proofreading/editing. Hopefully, the NRA will take its time and go through the next iteration with a fine-toothed comb before releasing to the public.

 

[tvaught]

Who can really say what's legal now?

The NRA pulled the 2024 F-Class document from their website. The PDF file link was there previously, now only the label is there. Presumably, they will now take the time go over it carefully, something they clearly didn't do the first time around. Please feel free to excoriate me for not just saying, "Great job, NRA!", but I don't tell someone they did a great job when it was actually done poorly.

I have compared the 2024 copies I have with the 2023 and 2020 versions. The 2024 version was more than just a simple cut and paste job from previous versions of the Highpower Rulebook. There were numerous typos and grammatical errors in the initial version of the 2024 F-Class Rulebook that made it online. Further, there appears to be language missing that I thought had already been agreed upon by the Rules Committee. For example, the "new" 2024 section regarding F-TR bipods/carpet/boards does appear to be a cut and paste job from a previous version that was written before the new language was agreed upon following the Great Carpet Debacle. Altogether, my impression was that the new document was cobbled together without sufficient attention or proofreading/editing. Hopefully, the NRA will take its time and go through the next iteration with a fine-toothed comb before releasing to the public.

I just downloaded the 2024 Fclass Rules prior to posting this reply.

You might try refreshing your browser, using a different client, the usual stuff to access the link.

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[Ned Ludd]

I just downloaded the 2024 Fclass Rules prior to posting this reply.

You might try refreshing your browser, using a different client, the usual stuff to access the link.

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You're correct, the link to the pdf is there. I was looking at the wrong thing and I corrected my previous post. The spelling, grammatical, and potential content errors have still not been addressed.

 

[CA_Shooter]

You're correct, the link to the pdf is there. I was looking at the wrong thing and I corrected my previous post. The spelling, grammatical, and potential content errors have still not been addressed.

I guess they could have waited another year or 3 to release the rulebook so my high school English teacher could review all the grammar & spelling...and make sure the prepositional phrases were called out correctly

 

[Ned Ludd]

I guess they could have waited another year or 3 to release the rulebook so my high school English teacher could review all the grammar & spelling...and make sure the prepositional phrases were called out correctly



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Or they could just do what any reasonable person putting together a document would do and edit the document properly before releasing it. Roll your eyes some more.

 

[Jeff Porter]

Welcome to NRA (and CMP) rule books.

 

[dbramley]

I never said the rule was new, however, it is a new statement that removes ambiguity. Fired from the shoulder is ambiguous as has been discussed in the other threads over the years. I’m just wondering if it has ever been enforced. If it has been in place and never enforced, especially at the major matches, then it can be reasoned that either no one shoots free recoil or it was an acceptable practice based on the common interpretation of “from the shoulder”.

I can recall that one of those threads had someone who had shot and won major matches that they have shot free recoil and never seen it enforced. That is just one point of view.

FYI the rules are never in enforced unless a competitor files a protest. We do not have anyone walking up and down the line looking for violations. For there to be an infraction of the rules another competitor needs to document the infraction and file a protest. Then the match director or Jury will decide if it is truly an infraction. If they deem it an infraction then that competitor will be disqualified.