F-Class now has it's own Rules Book (2024)

[Jeff Porter]

Yinz need to add a new class......Call it F-Outlaw or F-Unlimited. Or for
that matter, a whole new organization like what UBR and Freedom did.

F-O or F-U.

Ok 14 year old me done posting.

 

[Warren Dean]

Yinz need to add a new class......Call it F-Outlaw or F-Unlimited. Or for
that matter, a whole new organization like what UBR and Freedom did.

Yeah...there's a brilliant idea....

 

[Steve Jennings]

F-O or F-U.

Ok 14 year old me done posting.

Yup.
Good idea with a maximum 10 page rule book with large print.

 

[DumpHollow]

Yinz need to add a new class......Call it F-Outlaw or F-Unlimited. Or for
that matter, a whole new organization like what UBR and Freedom did.

Whatever happened with “F-Bench”?

 

[dannyjbiggs]

The “Spirit of F Class” is VERY subjective. My opinion is as long as it’s shot prone off a bi pod or front rest with a separate rear bag in a High Power format then it is. It’s OK for it to evolve into what we shooters want. After all we’re the ones traveling and spending the money and doing it.

Yes, yes, it is. And a newly coined phrase in F-Class rules. I'm not too sure that the bone fide "spirit of F-Class" is that one cannot commence to compete in F-Class until he is at least 70 years of age? Far-fetched, you say. Think about it.

 

[Highpower-FClass]

I see that the new F-Class rules book cover was adopted for F-Open on the SWN results page.

I'd like to think it was done by someone with a great sense of humor

 

[rardoin]

Yinz need to add a new class......Call it F-Outlaw or F-Unlimited. Or for
that matter, a whole new organization like what UBR and Freedom did.

F-class Points Series (V2 matches). I like the format of two to a mound....three is even better. I would be fine with having this format of F-class shooting become the standard and parting ways with the NRA altogether. The rub comes in when fielding a national team for the world championships. That team must be representing the country's national rifle association. There is nothing stopping a team from organizing and competing on their own at worlds....but they can't be recognized as the official USA Team.

 

[rardoin]

I see that the new F-Class rules book cover was adopted for F-Open on the SWN results page.

I'd like to think it was done by someone with a great sense of humor

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That IS funny Frederik! Someone would protest that the guy is NOT using a rest! LOL

 

[kzin]

Whatever happened with “F-Bench”?

The score bench matches around here are essentially that.
One has two rifle classes, bench and f.

 

[kzin]

F-class Points Series (V2 matches). I like the format of two to a mound....three is even better. I would be fine with having this format of F-class shooting become the standard and parting ways with the NRA altogether. The rub comes in when fielding a national team for the world championships. That team must be representing the country's national rifle association. There is nothing stopping a team from organizing and competing on their own at worlds....but they can't be recognized as the official USA Team.

Just daydreaming but get CMP to align with ICFRA and fire NRA and replace with CMP?

 

[davidjoe]

Yes, yes, it is. And a newly coined phrase in F-Class rules. I'm not too sure that the bone fide "spirit of F-Class" is that one cannot commence to compete in F-Class until he is at least 70 years of age? Far-fetched, you say. Think about it.

No doubt, but the 70+ er’s are going to have to pick us up off the line. We got a taste of this good stuff, and we are overall pretty darn heavy, now. Y’all will be sore, Monday .

 

[ronsatspokane]

F-class Points Series (V2 matches). I like the format of two to a mound....three is even better. I would be fine with having this format of F-class shooting become the standard and parting ways with the NRA altogether. The rub comes in when fielding a national team for the world championships. That team must be representing the country's national rifle association. There is nothing stopping a team from organizing and competing on their own at worlds....but they can't be recognized as the official USA Team.

And what is it that makes the NRA the US representative in the international shooting arena? Is it the name? They are not sponsored by the US government (tax payers that is) that I'm aware of. Everyone who goes to worlds supplies their own guns, ammo, gear, travel and housing. What if we were to name an organization United States F Class association. Would it be accepted as representing the US on the world level?

 

[DR_2297]

...and Palma bullet weights (81 / 156 gn for .223 Rem / .308 Win, respectively).

But that horse has left the barn - along with the rest of the critters. Coulda, shoulda, woulda... didn't. Too late now.

Actually it is 91 grains for 223.

 

[makurtz]

I agree. Open should be open. Limit the weight of the rifle and the max caliber and no rail guns then let innovation take its course. This "spirit of" thing is is hard to swallow when $2000 rests and $500 RAD's are all the fashion.

F-Open is gonna evolve as technology evolves, just like any other sport. Innovation should be embraced, not penalized. One of the side effects is that the costs may/will increase to stay competitive. That's just the way it goes in any competitive sport. I see F-Open as the NRA version, NHRA Pro-Mod, run what ya brung, (hope you brought enough), rifle class. F-Open is not for everybody. For entry-level & the purists that think you need a caliber limited, shoot on a conventional bi-pod with a bean bag rear rest venue, there's already high power prone class for that. It's called TACTICAL RIFLE.

 

[rardoin]

And what is it that makes the NRA the US representative in the international shooting arena? Is it the name? They are not sponsored by the US government (tax payers that is) that I'm aware of. Everyone who goes to worlds supplies their own guns, ammo, gear, travel and housing. What if we were to name an organization United States F Class association. Would it be accepted as representing the US on the world level?

Very good questions. According to my interpretation of ICFRA rules, only member country's NRA may field a 'national' team (eg.- Team USA), however, a joint team not consisting of country's team members may enter if approved in advance by ICFRA. So... Rolling Coal could compete as a team if approved and there is adequate room at the range...but not call themselves a USA team. I dunno...I'd rather say "I was on Team Rolling Coal when we won the Rutland Cup" Although I may be a little biased toward my homies .

 

[Bottom Fodder]

195 replys have we beat this dead horse to death yet

 

[LVLAaron]

195 replys have we beat this dead horse to death yet

The beatings will continue until morale improves.

 

[memilanuk]

Actually it is 91 grains for 223.

Well, well. I see that it is. Used to be 81 gn - guess I missed that change.

Berger brought out their 82 grain 'Fullbore' bullet for a couple years... then it got trimmed down and became the 80.5 gn 'Fulbore' because, well, the bullet weight limit for Fullbore was *81* grains at the time - whoopsie

 

[kzin]

195 replys have we beat this dead horse to death yet

Dead?

US NRA has taken a step in the wrong direction according to many of their own members and the international governing body. It needs to be corrected.

Never surrender.

 

[ronsatspokane]

Very good questions. According to my interpretation of ICFRA rules, only member country's NRA may field a 'national' team (eg.- Team USA), however, a joint team not consisting of country's team members may enter if approved in advance by ICFRA. So... Rolling Coal could compete as a team if approved and there is adequate room at the range...but not call themselves a USA team. I dunno...I'd rather say "I was on Team Rolling Coal when we won the Rutland Cup" Although I may be a little biased toward my homies .

The trouble is that the US has no NRA. There is an entity that calls itself the NRA but it is not affiliated with and receives no funding from the US or any state government. This is unlike NPR (National Public Radio) which is affiliated with the US Government, receives some direct funding from the US government and whose affiliate stations receive massive funding from the Corporation for Public Broadcasting. 500 million bucks a year. The board of that entity is of course appointed by the president of the US. a good portion of the funds that the Corporation for Public Broadcasting doles out goes back to NPR to purchase content. So even though the left says that NPR is not a government operation, it is essentially the Pravda of the US.

Imagine what 1 tenth of the budget of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting could do for shooting sports in the US. Imagine the impact of eliminating the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and funding the Corporation for Public Shooting instead. One can dream...