F/CLASS BIPOD

[ANDY T]

Hi
Looking at getting some new front bipods for my tactical rifle F/Class ones but there so many new bipods out there.

This will just be for prone shooting not benchrest shooting
Which one have you found the best or which one would you recommend for a tactical rifle fitted to the under side rail

Sinclair bipod
ski bipod
Big Foot bi-pod
Any other

Thanks
Andy

 

[CVH]

Phoenix Precision makes a nice one as well.

 

[Trevor60]

if you like a bipod you can load LRaccuracy's bipod can't be beat.

For ski type pods.
Remple (weight concern)
censhot
star-shooter
Sinclair Gen III

there was a guy in Wisconsin that maid a remple/censhot design all alum but for the life of me i can't remember their name.. edit post CVH has the name of the maker...slick looking.

 

[Keith Glasscock]

I have a Sinclair F-class bipod. I would not want to be lugging it around in the woods trying to do anything "tactical."

Could you perhaps give us a better description of intended use? That might make it easier to give suggestions.

 

[ANDY T]

I have a Sinclair F-class bipod. I would not want to be lugging it around in the woods trying to do anything "tactical."

Could you perhaps give us a better description of intended use? That might make it easier to give suggestions.

Hi
This bipod would just be used at my rifle club and at my local MOD range out to 600 on flat ground.
Andy

 

[Keith Glasscock]

I can't recommend the Sinclair yet; I just haven't mastered the thing.

If I don't get the results I want soon, I'm going to be over at centershot to see if John will let me try one of his. I know that John watches the trace through his scope. I just don't know how much of that is John and how much is his bipod.

I am, however, rather certain that I would not spend the money for the vertically adjustable version of the Sinclair again. I just have not found a good use for it. It is too sensitive for small adjustments on target, and (as with anything that moves) there is a little play in it that makes me worry.

 

[ANDY T]

I can't recommend the Sinclair yet; I just haven't mastered the thing.

If I don't get the results I want soon, I'm going to be over at centershot to see if John will let me try one of his. I know that John watches the trace through his scope. I just don't know how much of that is John and how much is his bipod.

I am, however, rather certain that I would not spend the money for the vertically adjustable version of the Sinclair again. I just have not found a good use for it. It is too sensitive for small adjustments on target, and (as with anything that moves) there is a little play in it that makes me worry.

Hi
Thanks for your feed back i had seen a video on the Sinclair and did note that it looked like it was jumping to the right
Andy

 

[Keith Glasscock]

Mine slides left... I'm thinking that it is technique driven. I like the design, I just need to learn how to shoot it.

 

[Leaddog]

Mine slides left... I'm thinking that it is technique driven. I like the design, I just need to learn how to shoot it.

Just move a little bit more straight behind the rifle.

I have the Centershot and I see my trace with each shot shooting at 600 yards. I also saw my trace when using a Harris w/pod claws.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Charlie, that is good info. This is what I did with my Harris and it made all the difference. I used to shoot off of a mechanical all the time till a buddy got me shooting off a bipod, like it so much gonna build a FTR rifle.

Thanks for your service Charlie.

 

[Keith Glasscock]

Thanks Charlie.

I've moved 'round to where I looked like I was shooting left handed and the darn thing still went left. I think it is simpler/more complex than that. I know it isn't the bipod because I took a pair of furniture slides and put them on my Harris-like bipod and it went left too (we shoot off of concrete here). I've been measuring and the stock, if anything, is bent to direction to make the rifle go right. I'm going to see if can shoot from a softer surface and see if that helps (it did with my other bipod).

I've also put some UHMW tape on my buttstock where the bag rides to see if it is dragging the muzzle up (the bipod goes airborne - even free recoil).

Even though the bipod doesn't track the way I'd like, it does give me good, consistent performance. Just shot another group off of it at 300. It was 3/4"

I'm going to do a little more techinque work and see if I can get what I want, but the real test is whether I can find something that I can do so consistently that the rifle performs up to its ability. Thus far, I'm learning that I have to loosen up on the rifle a lot.

What kind of technique/hold are you using with the Centershot?

 

[Leaddog]

Thanks Charlie.

I've moved 'round to where I looked like I was shooting left handed and the darn thing still went left. I think it is simpler/more complex than that. I know it isn't the bipod because I took a pair of furniture slides and put them on my Harris-like bipod and it went left too (we shoot off of concrete here). I've been measuring and the stock, if anything, is bent to direction to make the rifle go right. I'm going to see if can shoot from a softer surface and see if that helps (it did with my other bipod).

I've also put some UHMW tape on my buttstock where the bag rides to see if it is dragging the muzzle up (the bipod goes airborne - even free recoil).

Even though the bipod doesn't track the way I'd like, it does give me good, consistent performance. Just shot another group off of it at 300. It was 3/4"

I'm going to do a little more techinque work and see if I can get what I want, but the real test is whether I can find something that I can do so consistently that the rifle performs up to its ability. Thus far, I'm learning that I have to loosen up on the rifle a lot.

What kind of technique/hold are you using with the Centershot?

Busdriver- Sorry... didn't see this post until now.

The technique I use with the Centershot is exactly the same as the Harris w/podclaws I was using, except no leaning into it to load it. I use a solid, pulled back into the shoulder hold and firm handshake technique on the pistol grip. You don't want to pull back so hard you start to shake.... just a firm pullback and hold. I have a 3 way butt plate which I raise up about an inch and a half above the stock. It helps me to get the stock squarely in the shoulder pocket. When I was using a Harris, I was able to keep the crosshairs on the target through recoil and see my trace almost everytime at 600 yards and further.

I replaced the centershot feet with a pair of 1" wide aluminum feet I had a local machine shop make up for me. They work well. I use the bipod on a tight napped piece of carpet. Some folks will use a piece of plastic cutting board or wood to support the bipod, but I found that to be too 'slippery' for my style.

Good shooting!

Charlie

 

[littlerascal56]

I built this one from aluminum scrap in our shop. I drilled a lot of 1/2" holes in the underside to lower the weight (looks like swiss cheese from the bottom) and it's right at 4# now. Top is leather w/leather sides, and it mounts to a 5/16 UNF bushing I installed in forearm of my Savage. Very stable off the bench and ground (prone) and extremely adjustable. I actually like it better than my benchrest tripod. It's almost like cheating shooting with this system!

 

[Keith Glasscock]

Thanks Charlie!

I had believed that the new bipod was giving me fits when I really had a rifle problem (my own stupid mistake) that took my 2's and 3's rifle to 6's and 7's. Once I got that figured out, I realized that the precision really didn't change that much with my technique, so long as I was consistent.

I tried your technique out of just trying stuff and the bipod tracked better. When I went to a lower rear bag position, things got a lot better, fast!

Tonight I was shooting at 3 and 600. While I wasn't able to keep the crosshairs on target, I was able to keep them on the target board. That is a major improvement. I wasn't able to see the trace because the bullet is almost to the target by the time the vibration subsides. It probably didn't help that it was dark and we were shooting under lights. I was able to see the bullet go through the target though... I was shooting off of a plastic sheet.

In the end analysis, I think I was shooting the rifle with a bit too loose of hold. Between you and Steve (sleepygator) I've learned a great deal about shooting a wide stance bipod that can slide around.

The real test will be shooting a match. I'm supposed to shoot a 300 yard match on the 28th. Wish me luck!

 

[Leaddog]

Thanks Charlie!

I had believed that the new bipod was giving me fits when I really had a rifle problem (my own stupid mistake) that took my 2's and 3's rifle to 6's and 7's. Once I got that figured out, I realized that the precision really didn't change that much with my technique, so long as I was consistent.

I tried your technique out of just trying stuff and the bipod tracked better. When I went to a lower rear bag position, things got a lot better, fast!

Tonight I was shooting at 3 and 600. While I wasn't able to keep the crosshairs on target, I was able to keep them on the target board. That is a major improvement. I wasn't able to see the trace because the bullet is almost to the target by the time the vibration subsides. It probably didn't help that it was dark and we were shooting under lights. I was able to see the bullet go through the target though... I was shooting off of a plastic sheet.

In the end analysis, I think I was shooting the rifle with a bit too loose of hold. Between you and Steve (sleepygator) I've learned a great deal about shooting a wide stance bipod that can slide around.

The real test will be shooting a match. I'm supposed to shoot a 300 yard match on the 28th. Wish me luck!

Here's a couple of photos of my rifle with the Centershot (before I changed the feet):

 

[GermanS1]

Andy, I've been very satisfied with my Rempel "ski" bipod for F-TR. I've even shot a couple of F-Open matches with it (597-38 and 599-51 both at 500 yd). It's about as stable as can be. Pictures and info here: http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2011/04/equipment-canadian-f-class-bipod.html

 

[Leaddog]

Andy, I've been very satisfied with my Rempel "ski" bipod for F-TR. I've even shot a couple of F-Open matches with it (597-38 and 599-51 both at 500 yd). It's about as stable as can be. Pictures and info here: http://riflemansjournal.blogspot.com/2011/04/equipment-canadian-f-class-bipod.html

German - That's one nice bipod for sure. I couldn't make weight with that in F-T/R, though.

Charlie

 

[GermanS1]

Charlie, I'm about 1 oz. under the limit with a BAT 3L action in a Robertson stock, 29.5" medium Palma barrel and a Nightforce NXS. It's close! I can't make weight with it on my tubegun using the Nightforce but it's OK with the Leupold.

 

[Heavies]

Anytime someone asks about a wide stance bipod I have to put in a recommendation for the MWerks bipod.

This bipod is stable, simple, and a great value.

I just got my new rifle and needed a new mount, so I could switch the bipod between my two rifles. Without hesitation, a new mount was sent out with instruction to send a check when I received the item. Great service and a great product!

www.mwerksllc.com