Eyesight issues

[JoeDuke]

Long post but here goes.

While Jackie Schmidt has been getting his eyes fixed and his eyesight improved, mine has taken a decided turn the other direction. And the solution is not so straight forward.

My Mother suffered with bad macular degeneration in both eyes for about the last ten years of her life so I have always been a bit concerned and continued to ask the eye doctor about any signs of it for the last several years. A couple of years ago, he began to have some concern about a spot in my eye and started scheduling me for an exam every three months. Then he referred me to a retina specialist who has continued to monitor the suspect spot. Meanwhile, I said yea, yea, and merrily went on with life.

After attending the NBRSA score nationals in Iowa this year, I noticed the IBS Score Nationals were only a couple of weeks later and a couple of states away. So I decided to attend the IBS Nats. Sandy and I spent the next few days enjoying the Smokey Mountain National Forest area and then made our way to Ashe County North Carolina. I got to the range on Friday and set out flags in front of my bench. I noticed it looked a little dark looking thru the scope but paid no attention as it was fairly overcast.

Saturday morning I arrived bright and early and set up my rifle on the bench. When I looked thru the scope, there was a blob between me and the target that I could not see thru! The unthinkable had happened and I had seepage in my eye. This ain’t good! Looked thru the scope with my left eye and could see the target fine. I placed an emergency call to the Retina specialist back in Texas and he told me that shooting would have no further effect on the eye and we scheduled an appointment for as soon as I could get back home.

Meanwhile, I moved my equipment over to the left side of the bench and commenced to shoot a nationals match from the wrong side. That was upsetting to put it mildly. Everything is awkward, out of place, unfamiliar, and your mechanics are all wrong. I immediately dropped a couple of points which is the kiss of death but I had a great time and meet a bunch of very nice folks. Thank you Jim Cline for your help.

I got back home and saw the retina specialist. After all sorts of tests, they confirmed what I had been looking at. He said we had caught it early and He was confident my vision would improve. He also said I would be getting an injection in the eye about once a month from here on out and indeed they administered the first one at that time.

Since then, my vision seems to change every few days but there is still no way I could shoot right handed. There is a very significant amount of distortion and even it appears a blind spot just about 7:30 from the center of my vision. So, I continue to work on learning to shoot from the left side of the bench. It is a challenge but it sure beats not being able to shoot at all.

Now I relay all this not for sympathy but to stress that our health is so important and that we need to take care of it as we all get a bunch of years under out belts. Health, vision, hearing, all are important to us and can change in a heartbeat. Indeed, God doesn’t promise us anything further than the next breath so make very sure you have accepted Christ as your Savior and that you are sure of where you will spend eternity.

Meanwhile, I am still enjoying life to the fullest and will see you at the next match.

 

[JMayo]

Yep that's some scary stuff. My grandmother had it. I'm told there are vitamins for the eyes that help. Idk.
My Dr says i have very healthy eyes.

I didn't know you had that kind of trouble at the match.
Your in my thoughts and prayers.

 

[TTE]

You seem to have a positive attitude. That and some prayers can't hurt.

Good luck.

 

[JoeDuke]

Yep that's some scary stuff. My grandmother had it. I'm told there are vitamins for the eyes that help. Idk.
My Dr says i have very healthy eyes.

I didn't know you had that kind of trouble at the match.
Your in my thoughts and prayers.
[/QUOTe

I tried to not make a big deal of it there. I cant change it so lets get on. Enjoyed seeing you there and will see you at the Tackdriver.

 

[jpx2rk]

Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

 

[K22]

I have had two cornea surgeries, one in each eye. I also have floaters which can be troublesome so you're not alone with eye issues albeit yours sound more significant. But having a competent specialist that you trust will help a lot and science has significantly advanced treatment. I'm fortunate to be close to the Wills Eye Clinic in Philadelphia which is world renowned for its eye care. My doctor was trained there.

I had to give up bull eye pistol shooting in the 90's due to an elbow and spinal condition. It was difficult to take since I was a Distinguished Expert, and I loved the sport.

I had to curtail my varmint hunting due to the spinal condition.

But the absolute worst thing that ever happen to me happen in 2021, I lost my beloved wife of 48 years to cancer.

We all love your shooting sports an any setback is upsetting to say the least but after losing my wife it kind of put things into perspective for me. What I trying to say and probably doing a bad job of it is that as long as you have your loved ones, you'll be able to weather any storm and curve balls life throws at you. Faith also helps a lot.

May the Lord shine his blessing on you and help you navigate these troubled waters. Best wishes from a fellow shooter.

PS: Never surrender.

 

[JoeDuke]

K22. Thats real close to what i was trying to say but i think you said it better.
Be thankful for what you have and never take it or them for granted. Your life’s direction can change in a heartbeat. Or in my case, overnight. But it is not the end of the world. And even not being to shoot well enough to be competitive wouldn’t be the end of the world.
Your loss far far exceeds mine.

But the worst loss of all would be to die without salvation.

 

[Ken]

I had a less than successful right eye cataract surgery. I was thinking my prairie dog shooting days were over. After trying some alternatives, I settled on shooting right handed-left eyed. I set up my scope offset to the left where everything worked. I have a few more trips left in me,
(I hope)

 

[One Eye Pete]

When I was 14 years old I looked down the barrel of my BB gun and found that I couldn't see the sight bead at the far end. It turned out that I had keratoconus in my right eye. Keratoconus causes the cornea to grow to a cone. I had a cornea transplant back in 1987 and it saved the eye but I still have trouble seeing the big E on the eye chart. (My nickname isn't One Eye Pete because I have binocular vision). I thank the Good Lord every day that although I have a touch of the keratoconus in my left eye I still have decent vision, even after cataract surgery.
I am right handed but used to shoot short range benchrest lefty with moderate success. When I took up F class I took a different approach. Now most of my rifle stocks have an adjustable comb. I take the comb piece off and replace it with a flat plate that I can rest my chin on. The comb (plate) is still adjustable just a lot lower. I then use extra high rings on my scope. This set up allows me to comfortably use my left eye when shooting righty without having to offset the scope. This setup has definitely made me a better shooter than I ever was lefty.
Recently I started to get back into short range benchrest. My short range benchrest gun has a beautiful Terry Leonard stock and I just couldn't bring myself to cut the comb down. What I did was to raise the scope extra high with a combination of high rings and a dovetail riser mount. I can now shoot it righty using my left eye.
This style of shooting takes a little getting used to but has worked well for me.
When shooting prone for F Class I can rest my chin on the stock and avoid neck fatigue while "waiting on the wind". When I'm ready to shoot I simply raise my head slightly to take any pressure off the stock. I'm by no means a nationally ranked shooter but I have won my share of club matches.

 

[Ray123]

Long post but here goes.

While Jackie Schmidt has been getting his eyes fixed and his eyesight improved, mine has taken a decided turn the other direction. And the solution is not so straight forward.

My Mother suffered with bad macular degeneration in both eyes for about the last ten years of her life so I have always been a bit concerned and continued to ask the eye doctor about any signs of it for the last several years. A couple of years ago, he began to have some concern about a spot in my eye and started scheduling me for an exam every three months. Then he referred me to a retina specialist who has continued to monitor the suspect spot. Meanwhile, I said yea, yea, and merrily went on with life.

After attending the NBRSA score nationals in Iowa this year, I noticed the IBS Score Nationals were only a couple of weeks later and a couple of states away. So I decided to attend the IBS Nats. Sandy and I spent the next few days enjoying the Smokey Mountain National Forest area and then made our way to Ashe County North Carolina. I got to the range on Friday and set out flags in front of my bench. I noticed it looked a little dark looking thru the scope but paid no attention as it was fairly overcast.

Saturday morning I arrived bright and early and set up my rifle on the bench. When I looked thru the scope, there was a blob between me and the target that I could not see thru! The unthinkable had happened and I had seepage in my eye. This ain’t good! Looked thru the scope with my left eye and could see the target fine. I placed an emergency call to the Retina specialist back in Texas and he told me that shooting would have no further effect on the eye and we scheduled an appointment for as soon as I could get back home.

Meanwhile, I moved my equipment over to the left side of the bench and commenced to shoot a nationals match from the wrong side. That was upsetting to put it mildly. Everything is awkward, out of place, unfamiliar, and your mechanics are all wrong. I immediately dropped a couple of points which is the kiss of death but I had a great time and meet a bunch of very nice folks. Thank you Jim Cline for your help.

I got back home and saw the retina specialist. After all sorts of tests, they confirmed what I had been looking at. He said we had caught it early and He was confident my vision would improve. He also said I would be getting an injection in the eye about once a month from here on out and indeed they administered the first one at that time.

Since then, my vision seems to change every few days but there is still no way I could shoot right handed. There is a very significant amount of distortion and even it appears a blind spot just about 7:30 from the center of my vision. So, I continue to work on learning to shoot from the left side of the bench. It is a challenge but it sure beats not being able to shoot at all.

Now I relay all this not for sympathy but to stress that our health is so important and that we need to take care of it as we all get a bunch of years under out belts. Health, vision, hearing, all are important to us and can change in a heartbeat. Indeed, God doesn’t promise us anything further than the next breath so make very sure you have accepted Christ as your Savior and that you are sure of where you will spend eternity.

Meanwhile, I am still enjoying life to the fullest and will see you at the next match.

I have age related macular degeneration... . And I get eye injections for almost 2 years...the price is going up past $3400 per injection per eye, for the good stuff. Insurance pays 80% so far, it sucks. I can only read out of my left eye, it has decent vision...but I can not read out of the right, there is a dark center spot, nothing is straight. The lines and crosshairs in the scope are all distorted, crooked, and not on the same plane.
It nevers gets better even with the expensive eye injections...it's just to stablizes, hopefully and prolongs the crappy vision you now have, to keep from going totally dark straight ahead with only light coming in from the sides of the eye.
So I still shoot right handed, with a bad eye I need light,... dark things, dark colors become invisible.
Here is what works for me high power scope 24 to 30X with fairly big objective lens to let light in...need light to get through that dark jagged, distorted circle you have for vision. I like an 1/8" center dot, even though the crosshairs are very crooked the dot is in the same spot. I have to really concentrate, cause sometimes I pick up on the dot next to the center dot, and ruin a good group. I can't tell the size of the group many times at 27X until I go up and look, but still get in the .2" -.3" with this method. Left handed is difficult for me to get "the feel" as everthing seems awkward. I shoot in shade, out with sun on face of target.
Get blue blocker lenses for your glasses, that block blue light. Start PreserVision eye vitamins 2 times a day, AREDS 2 specifically formulated for this vision condition. There is no cure, ..and ARMD turn from dry to wet you can go blind in 28 days. I have wet in the right (bleeding in the eye,) the eye injections slow "the wet" progression, so you don't go blind right away ...get the expensive injection $3400 one, the cheaper one did nothing. Get your grid eye chart to look at everyday...paste in on the wall. Any changes call your eye doctor immediately...if it goes wet you only have a small window to save what is left of your eyesight. I caught it early too l, cause I was a shooter also, but it went wet in less than 2 months. There is no cure, it won't improve, but it can get worse fast...See your doctor immediately to slow the progression...And you'll get used to needles in the eye..for the most part...and start the eye supplement now.

 

[hoz53]

I have age related macular degeneration... . And I get eye injections for almost 2 years...the price is going up past $3400 per injection per eye, for the good stuff. Insurance pays 80% so far, it sucks. I can only read out of my left eye, it has decent vision...but I can not read out of the right, there is a dark center spot, nothing is straight. The lines and crosshairs in the scope are all distorted, crooked, and not on the same plane.
It nevers gets better even with the expensive eye injections...it's just to stablizes, hopefully and prolongs the crappy vision you now have, to keep from going totally dark straight ahead with only light coming in from the sides of the eye.
So I still shoot right handed, with a bad eye I need light,... dark things, dark colors become invisible.
Here is what works for me high power scope 24 to 30X with fairly big objective lens to let light in...need light to get through that dark jagged, distorted circle you have for vision. I like an 1/8" center dot, even though the crosshairs are very crooked the dot is in the same spot. I have to really concentrate, cause sometimes I pick up on the dot next to the center dot, and ruin a good group. I can't tell the size of the group many times at 27X until I go up and look, but still get in the .2" -.3" with this method. Left handed is difficult for me to get "the feel" as everthing seems awkward. I shoot in shade, out with sun on face of target.
Get blue blocker lenses for your glasses, that block blue light. Start PreserVision eye vitamins 2 times a day, AREDS 2 specifically formulated for this vision condition. There is no cure, ..and ARMD turn from dry to wet you can go blind in 28 days. I have wet in the right (bleeding in the eye,) the eye injections slow "the wet" progression, so you don't go blind right away ...get the expensive injection $3400 one, the cheaper one did nothing. Get your grid eye chart to look at everyday...paste in on the wall. Any changes call your eye doctor immediately...if it goes wet you only have a small window to save what is left of your eyesight. I caught it early too l, cause I was a shooter also, but it went wet in less than 2 months. There is no cure, it won't improve, but it can get worse fast...See your doctor immediately to slow the progression...And you'll get used to needles in the eye..for the most part...and start the eye supplement now.

I am sorry to hear about your vision issues Ray. I hope the best for you!! I assume you have tried a higher power scope? Im 66 and have some vision problems and the higher power, better quality optics help me. I Couldnt do nearly as well with the lower powered leupolds as i used to. Keep up the good fight. Thank You Much for reminding us all how fortunate we are.

 

[hoz53]

When I was 14 years old I looked down the barrel of my BB gun and found that I couldn't see the sight bead at the far end. It turned out that I had keratoconus in my right eye. Keratoconus causes the cornea to grow to a cone. I had a cornea transplant back in 1987 and it saved the eye but I still have trouble seeing the big E on the eye chart. (My nickname isn't One Eye Pete because I have binocular vision). I thank the Good Lord every day that although I have a touch of the keratoconus in my left eye I still have decent vision, even after cataract surgery.
I am right handed but used to shoot short range benchrest lefty with moderate success. When I took up F class I took a different approach. Now most of my rifle stocks have an adjustable comb. I take the comb piece off and replace it with a flat plate that I can rest my chin on. The comb (plate) is still adjustable just a lot lower. I then use extra high rings on my scope. This set up allows me to comfortably use my left eye when shooting righty without having to offset the scope. This setup has definitely made me a better shooter than I ever was lefty.
Recently I started to get back into short range benchrest. My short range benchrest gun has a beautiful Terry Leonard stock and I just couldn't bring myself to cut the comb down. What I did was to raise the scope extra high with a combination of high rings and a dovetail riser mount. I can now shoot it righty using my left eye.
This style of shooting takes a little getting used to but has worked well for me.
When shooting prone for F Class I can rest my chin on the stock and avoid neck fatigue while "waiting on the wind". When I'm ready to shoot I simply raise my head slightly to take any pressure off the stock. I'm by no means a nationally ranked shooter but I have won my share of club matches.

Thanks Much Pete for the info- i have kerataconous in my shooting eye also. had cataract surgery but that didnt help with the Ker. and they wouldnt do lasic on it. i have tried shooting lefty at the BR but went back to normal. just feels more natural. I am doing okay but it would be great to shoot with the left as my vision is much better. i may try some of the mods ur using to see if it would work for me. Good luck with it all..

 

[hoz53]

Long post but here goes.

While Jackie Schmidt has been getting his eyes fixed and his eyesight improved, mine has taken a decided turn the other direction. And the solution is not so straight forward.

My Mother suffered with bad macular degeneration in both eyes for about the last ten years of her life so I have always been a bit concerned and continued to ask the eye doctor about any signs of it for the last several years. A couple of years ago, he began to have some concern about a spot in my eye and started scheduling me for an exam every three months. Then he referred me to a retina specialist who has continued to monitor the suspect spot. Meanwhile, I said yea, yea, and merrily went on with life.

After attending the NBRSA score nationals in Iowa this year, I noticed the IBS Score Nationals were only a couple of weeks later and a couple of states away. So I decided to attend the IBS Nats. Sandy and I spent the next few days enjoying the Smokey Mountain National Forest area and then made our way to Ashe County North Carolina. I got to the range on Friday and set out flags in front of my bench. I noticed it looked a little dark looking thru the scope but paid no attention as it was fairly overcast.

Saturday morning I arrived bright and early and set up my rifle on the bench. When I looked thru the scope, there was a blob between me and the target that I could not see thru! The unthinkable had happened and I had seepage in my eye. This ain’t good! Looked thru the scope with my left eye and could see the target fine. I placed an emergency call to the Retina specialist back in Texas and he told me that shooting would have no further effect on the eye and we scheduled an appointment for as soon as I could get back home.

Meanwhile, I moved my equipment over to the left side of the bench and commenced to shoot a nationals match from the wrong side. That was upsetting to put it mildly. Everything is awkward, out of place, unfamiliar, and your mechanics are all wrong. I immediately dropped a couple of points which is the kiss of death but I had a great time and meet a bunch of very nice folks. Thank you Jim Cline for your help.

I got back home and saw the retina specialist. After all sorts of tests, they confirmed what I had been looking at. He said we had caught it early and He was confident my vision would improve. He also said I would be getting an injection in the eye about once a month from here on out and indeed they administered the first one at that time.

Since then, my vision seems to change every few days but there is still no way I could shoot right handed. There is a very significant amount of distortion and even it appears a blind spot just about 7:30 from the center of my vision. So, I continue to work on learning to shoot from the left side of the bench. It is a challenge but it sure beats not being able to shoot at all.

Now I relay all this not for sympathy but to stress that our health is so important and that we need to take care of it as we all get a bunch of years under out belts. Health, vision, hearing, all are important to us and can change in a heartbeat. Indeed, God doesn’t promise us anything further than the next breath so make very sure you have accepted Christ as your Savior and that you are sure of where you will spend eternity.

Meanwhile, I am still enjoying life to the fullest and will see you at the next match.

I wish the best for you in your vision tribulations. Im 66 and been having vision issues since 4th grade. And thank you for reminding us about the most important things

 

[Ggmac]

Long post but here goes.

While Jackie Schmidt has been getting his eyes fixed and his eyesight improved, mine has taken a decided turn the other direction. And the solution is not so straight forward.

My Mother suffered with bad macular degeneration in both eyes for about the last ten years of her life so I have always been a bit concerned and continued to ask the eye doctor about any signs of it for the last several years. A couple of years ago, he began to have some concern about a spot in my eye and started scheduling me for an exam every three months. Then he referred me to a retina specialist who has continued to monitor the suspect spot. Meanwhile, I said yea, yea, and merrily went on with life.

After attending the NBRSA score nationals in Iowa this year, I noticed the IBS Score Nationals were only a couple of weeks later and a couple of states away. So I decided to attend the IBS Nats. Sandy and I spent the next few days enjoying the Smokey Mountain National Forest area and then made our way to Ashe County North Carolina. I got to the range on Friday and set out flags in front of my bench. I noticed it looked a little dark looking thru the scope but paid no attention as it was fairly overcast.

Saturday morning I arrived bright and early and set up my rifle on the bench. When I looked thru the scope, there was a blob between me and the target that I could not see thru! The unthinkable had happened and I had seepage in my eye. This ain’t good! Looked thru the scope with my left eye and could see the target fine. I placed an emergency call to the Retina specialist back in Texas and he told me that shooting would have no further effect on the eye and we scheduled an appointment for as soon as I could get back home.

Meanwhile, I moved my equipment over to the left side of the bench and commenced to shoot a nationals match from the wrong side. That was upsetting to put it mildly. Everything is awkward, out of place, unfamiliar, and your mechanics are all wrong. I immediately dropped a couple of points which is the kiss of death but I had a great time and meet a bunch of very nice folks. Thank you Jim Cline for your help.

I got back home and saw the retina specialist. After all sorts of tests, they confirmed what I had been looking at. He said we had caught it early and He was confident my vision would improve. He also said I would be getting an injection in the eye about once a month from here on out and indeed they administered the first one at that time.

Since then, my vision seems to change every few days but there is still no way I could shoot right handed. There is a very significant amount of distortion and even it appears a blind spot just about 7:30 from the center of my vision. So, I continue to work on learning to shoot from the left side of the bench. It is a challenge but it sure beats not being able to shoot at all.

Now I relay all this not for sympathy but to stress that our health is so important and that we need to take care of it as we all get a bunch of years under out belts. Health, vision, hearing, all are important to us and can change in a heartbeat. Indeed, God doesn’t promise us anything further than the next breath so make very sure you have accepted Christ as your Savior and that you are sure of where you will spend eternity.

Meanwhile, I am still enjoying life to the fullest and will see you at the next match.

Similar situation here . My dominant eye , shootin eye , developed a macular hole . I woke up from a nap and dang , right in the center was a fishbowl affect I was trying to look through. I had a spot for 2-3 years and was seeing a specialist, he told me as soon as it changes ,call him . So I did , he called a surgeon and the next day I had the surgery. Painless ,but the 5 days required keeping your face down was , well very hard . Thankfully the hole closed but the fishbowl is still there just very very small . He said it’ll never be the same and it’s okay to shoot , even big boomers , but It’ll be left eye from now on for shooting small groups.
Good luck with your outcome.

 

[Ray123]

I am sorry to hear about your vision issues Ray. I hope the best for you!! I assume you have tried a higher power scope? Im 66 and have some vision problems and the higher power, better quality optics help me. I Couldnt do nearly as well with the lower powered leupolds as i used to. Keep up the good fight. Thank You Much for reminding us all how fortunate we are.

Thanks, for the good thoughts...
I just want people to know especially as you age that age related macular degeneration is the leading cause of blindness. It happened to me.
Beause losing your sight you lose most everything. Slowing the effects of macular degeneration so you can prolong your quality of your life...have that eyesight checked regularly as you age. As it can come on fairly quickly.
I use high end higher magnification scopes the clarity helps. Never give up, and be thankful for what you have...as it could be...and often does get worse.

 

[hoz53]

Thanks, for the good thoughts...
I just want people to know especially as you age that age related macular degeneration is the leading cause of blindness. It happened to me.
Beause losing your sight you lose most everything. Slowing the effects of macular degeneration so you can prolong your quality of your life...have that eyesight checked regularly as you age. As it can come on fairly quickly.
I use high end higher magnification scopes the clarity helps. Never give up, and be thankful for what you have...as it could be...and often does get worse.

Thank You again—- And good luck and best wishes to you in the years ahead.

 

[JoeDuke]

I have been taking the AREDS 2 for a number of months already. Long before the leakage began. The doctor also recommended eating leafy greens. I happen to like greens so thats good.
And yes, I suspect that dark spot will be permanent in spite of all efforts. But if we can keep it arrested, thats much better than losing all vision.
The unfortunate thing about wet macular degeneration is that it cant be treated before it leaks. (Other than the diet and supplements) And the shots dont cure the leakage. They only make the leaking vein go dormant. Thus the continued treatment. The problem is also somewhat hereditary as well so if it occurs in your family, encourage your vision doctor to look for developing symptoms. Very early detection and treatment is vital. It also is very much age related. I am 79.
Not looking forward to a shot in the eye every month but it beats the alternative.

 

[K22]

I had a less than successful right eye cataract surgery. I was thinking my prairie dog shooting days were over. After trying some alternatives, I settled on shooting right handed-left eyed. I set up my scope offset to the left where everything worked. I have a few more trips left in me,
(I hope)

Adapt and overcome - outstanding!

 

[wbm]

So, I continue to work on learning to shoot
from the left side of the bench. It is a
challenge but it sure beats not being able
to shoot at all.

Had a friend that had the same condition as you
have. He had the shots and the degeneration
stopped...however he began to shoot left handed...he
would sit on the right side of his rifle
and sight with his left eye...Once he got
the technique perfected, he was quite good.

He Had a Hart barreled Remington 40X on a McMillan stock
in 6MM PPC...he shot at Ben Avery all winter
and was very competitive!

God doesn’t promise us anything further than
the next breath so make very sure you have
accepted Christ as your Savior and that you
are sure of where you will spend eternity.
God doesn’t promise us anything further than
the next breath so make very sure you have
accepted Christ as your Savior and that you
are sure of where you will spend eternity.

Indeed

"there is no under name12 Salvation is found
in no one else, for there is no other name
under heaven given to mankind by which we
must be saved.” Acts 4:12

 

[butchlambert]

I have been taking the AREDS 2 for a number of months already. Long before the leakage began. The doctor also recommended eating leafy greens. I happen to like greens so thats good.
And yes, I suspect that dark spot will be permanent in spite of all efforts. But if we can keep it arrested, thats much better than losing all vision.
The unfortunate thing about wet macular degeneration is that it cant be treated before it leaks. (Other than the diet and supplements) And the shots dont cure the leakage. They only make the leaking vein go dormant. Thus the continued treatment. The problem is also somewhat hereditary as well so if it occurs in your family, encourage your vision doctor to look for developing symptoms. Very early detection and treatment is vital. It also is very much age related. I am 79.
Not looking forward to a shot in the eye every month but it beats the alternative.

Joe, we are the same old age. My mother lost her sight with macular degeneration. I have the same problem. I've been taking eye vitamins for several years. My eye doc said my condition hasn't progressed further yet. I am starting to see changes at 50yd RF matches with my 45x scope.